pro with B bars, clips in the bars(to solidify), and bolted. and my buddy that only rode bmx, now rides an A too. i had my pro since it came out, and its still good. im gettin the ultra tomorow. b4 the pro came out tho, i would look for cheap weid companies like zoomerz or some ----- as long as it did'nt have the same folding mech as the A. then rig. but there are some nice scoots out now. im happy