Dialed scooter vs fast scooter

Cole

Cole

Bronze member
To get my scoot dialed i gotta tighten the headset up alot and tighten the wheels and then its not as buttery
 
instinctscooter

instinctscooter

Silver Member
yea I'd rather have a slightly lose headset if that is the option however it is possible to have both. If you guys want i could make a tutorial on how to have fast headset bearings (its really simple) and it means your headset becomes much faster
 
Cole

Cole

Bronze member
instinctscooter said:
yea I'd rather have a slightly lose headset if that is the option however it is possible to have both. If you guys want i could make a tutorial on how to have fast headset bearings (its really simple) and it means your headset becomes much faster
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ight that would be rly cool i liek ur vids btw
 
B

Beyond16

Bronze member
Cole said:
To get my scoot dialed i gotta tighten the headset up alot and tighten the wheels and then its not as buttery
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How do your wheels differ between tighter and looser? I think any difference in feel between tight and loose axle means there is a problem. I noticed that the 'Flash Floods' bearings that come with River wheels can't withstand heavy axle pressure. Apparently the inner race of those bearings flex when the axle is too tight. I say this because mine wouldn't spin freely with a really tight axle. That is usually a sign of a flimsy bearing spacer. But all my spacers did this with the flash floods. With better bearings, the same axle torque didn't cause a problem. I saw that problem with a plain bolt/nut axle setup that puts the full axle tightening force on the bearings.

The axles that came with my Razor El Dorado are the type with internal threads. That type of axle stops compressing the bearings at a fixed point, no matter how tight you put it. While that setup prevents an over-tightened axle from pressuring the bearings too much, is has its own problems. If the bearing spacer is a little bit short, a fully tightened axle won't clamp down on the bearings. The result is noticeable sideways play in the wheel. I ground my axle a little shorter to solve this problem.

I think to call your wheels dialed means that they have no sideways play at all and spin freely, for both relatively tight and loose axle torques.
 
instinctscooter

instinctscooter

Silver Member
Beyond16 said:
How do your wheels differ between tighter and looser? I think any difference in feel between tight and loose axle means there is a problem. I noticed that the 'Flash Floods' bearings that come with River wheels can't withstand heavy axle pressure. Apparently the inner race of those bearings flex when the axle is too tight. I say this because mine wouldn't spin freely with a really tight axle. That is usually a sign of a flimsy bearing spacer. But all my spacers did this with the flash floods. With better bearings, the same axle torque didn't cause a problem. I saw that problem with a plain bolt/nut axle setup that puts the full axle tightening force on the bearings.

The axles that came with my Razor El Dorado are the type with internal threads. That type of axle stops compressing the bearings at a fixed point, no matter how tight you put it. While that setup prevents an over-tightened axle from pressuring the bearings too much, is has its own problems. If the bearing spacer is a little bit short, a fully tightened axle won't clamp down on the bearings. The result is noticeable sideways play in the wheel. I ground my axle a little shorter to solve this problem.

I think to call your wheels dialed means that they have no sideways play at all and spin freely, for both relatively tight and loose axle torques.
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the thing about internally threaded axels, you can always add a spacer instead of cutting the axels
 
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