Can someone explain scooter geo to me?
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Sam Bennett
Silver Member
Whats geo?
Normal ht angle is 82.5
Do not understand this question
Bar height is preference different people find different sizes more comfortable
And a wider deck is easier for fakies and that's pretty much it, also all about preference
Normal ht angle is 82.5
Do not understand this question
Bar height is preference different people find different sizes more comfortable
And a wider deck is easier for fakies and that's pretty much it, also all about preference
Chrispy
Silver Member
Geometry. Basically the math behind a scooter. For example, a 60° headtube would suck and not even work. That is geometry.
Ya feel?
Hamish C
Steel Member
Normal HTA is 82.5 or 83.
Shorter bars are better for throwing your scooter around like a helicopter and taller bars feel more comfortable plus they make your tricks look more stylish.
Deck width affects grinds mostly, wider deck generally means more surface area making grinds more stable. Most people ride 4.5 as 5 can feel a bit too wide but 4 feels too narrow.
Shorter bars are better for throwing your scooter around like a helicopter and taller bars feel more comfortable plus they make your tricks look more stylish.
Deck width affects grinds mostly, wider deck generally means more surface area making grinds more stable. Most people ride 4.5 as 5 can feel a bit too wide but 4 feels too narrow.
Hamish C
Steel Member
I think you're being a bit cynical; from what ive seen this kid post it seems like hes just some 15 year old newb and its not like a company would need to try deceive us, they could simply just say they are a new company and ask what qualities we like in parts, most people would be willing to have an input.
Chrispy
Silver Member
This. If i was a company why would i be making a scooter company. Skating is much more profitable
lol not true hardgoods in skating are a cutthroat industry and it's difficult to get started without large amounts of recognition or capital. Also the market for scooters is expanding much quicker, full of little kids with no product knowledge, so any company doesn't actually have to make good parts as long as they look cool enough for little kids.
Jason
Silver Member
Feel free to hold your own opinions on this, but I consider myself to hold clairvoyant abilities, and I'm very rarely wrong about my conclusions.
So how come a 15 year old kid with no confirmed identity, from California of all places, wants to know such specific questions about scooter geometry?
In before WhipTek Scooter Co, made in Taiwan.
So how come a 15 year old kid with no confirmed identity, from California of all places, wants to know such specific questions about scooter geometry?
In before WhipTek Scooter Co, made in Taiwan.
Chrispy
Silver Member
What do you want me to do? Post a pic of myself holding up a piece of paper? Dude chill
Dom Marconi
Silver Member
Relax dude. The kid could straight up google the answers to the question. If he has to ask about deck widths to start a scooter company, he's not starting a scooter company.
It's just a kid who wants to know average sizes so he can tell what is big or small.
It's just a kid who wants to know average sizes so he can tell what is big or small.
Jason
Silver Member
Big and small are not numbers, but feelings.
Yes, I am paranoid. It benefits me every day.
Hamish C
Steel Member
If he wanted to make imitation parts wouldnt he just use the companies' websites or Facebook pages for information?
Jason
Silver Member
Don't be silly! Hahaha scooter companies are unprofessional as all shit and you can never find everything you need to know on any one website, hell sometimes the stats and descriptions are just copy paste between different products. The bottom line is nobody makes parts to suit my PERSONAL needs, and never will because I'm an old ass flow rider built like a telephone pole and don't do enough 'tricks' to get recognized. I'm not complaining though, I still get by with my current shit and I'm not signing helmets or doing flips for approval so it's sweet.
I figured I've been enough of a douchebag in this thread to make a point SO, you wanna know about scooters huh? Well it's all down to the rider.
Street riders want tall, just under shoulder width bars, for quick barspins and all that. Nice hard wheels, generally 110mm. Stickier grips. 82.5 HT for comfy landings and easier tailwhips. Lots of surface area on the bottom of the deck, rail slides yo.
Park riders, or 'kids', like smaller decks, smaller bars. Actually park riders don't know what they want and it's been evident since the beginning of the sport so whatever. Just make it light enough to go over and around and back again 7 times before landing on the flat of a halfpipe.
And then people turned 20 and still kept riding scooters for some reason, figured pushing the tricks boundary isn't fun anymore, and want something FUN to ride. Yes, me. But soon enough everyone else is going to hit the mark so if you ARE a new company, you may aswell get ahead of the game. Here's some things I PERSONALLY obsess over to consider:
Bars in the 24-28" high range, my pre-pubescent video game influenced hunchback would LOVE this. Also in the 22-25" wide range. LET PEOPLE BE SPECIFIC. 5 degrees backsweep for sturdy landings.
Decks that are wider than 4.5", and longer than 22". I feel reluctant to charge ramps with my size 11's hanging over the edge, likely to catch the brake when I land.
Also Sacrifice(?) did a deck one time with concave grooves on the bottom, this is an EXCELLENT idea for park riding, and really should be revised, more than once.
I'm yet to experiment with 100mm wheels, but 110mm is still good. The scooter wheel size range is fine as is, go with anything. Soft for park, hard for street.
82.2 HT? Just a thought I've considered time to time.
AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, DON'T USE LOUD COLOURS! Believe it or not there ARE some people in the sport with a sense of taste and colour coordination, please DON'T use neons and rainbows and shit. Take note of all the subtle but strong colours on this page https://www.danscomp.com/shop-FRAMES/group/BMX+Bike+Frames.html
And with any hope, people will figure out what coloured parts will match.
You may just be a 15 year old kid, but I just saved your riding at the same time haha. Now I'm gonna set my ego to the side and watch some porn.
I figured I've been enough of a douchebag in this thread to make a point SO, you wanna know about scooters huh? Well it's all down to the rider.
Street riders want tall, just under shoulder width bars, for quick barspins and all that. Nice hard wheels, generally 110mm. Stickier grips. 82.5 HT for comfy landings and easier tailwhips. Lots of surface area on the bottom of the deck, rail slides yo.
Park riders, or 'kids', like smaller decks, smaller bars. Actually park riders don't know what they want and it's been evident since the beginning of the sport so whatever. Just make it light enough to go over and around and back again 7 times before landing on the flat of a halfpipe.
And then people turned 20 and still kept riding scooters for some reason, figured pushing the tricks boundary isn't fun anymore, and want something FUN to ride. Yes, me. But soon enough everyone else is going to hit the mark so if you ARE a new company, you may aswell get ahead of the game. Here's some things I PERSONALLY obsess over to consider:
Bars in the 24-28" high range, my pre-pubescent video game influenced hunchback would LOVE this. Also in the 22-25" wide range. LET PEOPLE BE SPECIFIC. 5 degrees backsweep for sturdy landings.
Decks that are wider than 4.5", and longer than 22". I feel reluctant to charge ramps with my size 11's hanging over the edge, likely to catch the brake when I land.
Also Sacrifice(?) did a deck one time with concave grooves on the bottom, this is an EXCELLENT idea for park riding, and really should be revised, more than once.
I'm yet to experiment with 100mm wheels, but 110mm is still good. The scooter wheel size range is fine as is, go with anything. Soft for park, hard for street.
82.2 HT? Just a thought I've considered time to time.
AND FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, DON'T USE LOUD COLOURS! Believe it or not there ARE some people in the sport with a sense of taste and colour coordination, please DON'T use neons and rainbows and shit. Take note of all the subtle but strong colours on this page https://www.danscomp.com/shop-FRAMES/group/BMX+Bike+Frames.html
And with any hope, people will figure out what coloured parts will match.
You may just be a 15 year old kid, but I just saved your riding at the same time haha. Now I'm gonna set my ego to the side and watch some porn.