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Mitten404

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I don't get why deck pins arent made revolutionary for scooters. The amount of grip it gives you kills any grip tape there is, hands down, which is proven. My TSI has deck pins and i'll never switch back to grip tape. Even when i ride with wet feet, i still have a good amount of grip.
So please tell me : Why choose grip tape over deck pins? When has there ever been "to much grip"?
 
R-Dubya

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I thought the same way until I actually had deck pins. There definitely is a "too much grip" factor. When you're doing tricks that require your feet to leave the deck, you want your feet to be able to slide a bit. Deck pins kill your shoes. I had them for one weekend and they completely mutilated the soles of my shoes. Another thing is that they NEVER stay tight. I drilled mine in as tight as possible to the point that I broke 2 allen keys, AND Gorilla Glued them in, and they still rattled loose after a single weekend of riding. They're just more trouble than they're worth. I think the only way I'd go back to deck pins is if they found a way to make them part of the deck itself, like PC pedals on bikes.
 
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R-Dubya said:
I thought the same way until I actually had deck pins. There definitely is a "too much grip" factor. When you're doing tricks that require your feet to leave the deck, you want your feet to be able to slide a bit. Deck pins kill your shoes. I had them for one weekend and they completely mutilated the soles of my shoes. Another thing is that they NEVER stay tight. I drilled mine in as tight as possible to the point that I broke 2 allen keys, AND Gorilla Glued them in, and they still rattled loose after a single weekend of riding. They're just more trouble than they're worth. I think the only way I'd go back to deck pins is if they found a way to make them part of the deck itself, like PC pedals on bikes.
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Thats extremely ironic because today i was looking at my deck pins and noticed they were the only thing holding my deckplate to my deck on my TSI. All the primary bolts in the front and back fell out. Im left with 2 sets of 10 deck pins goin down each side. Never have they ever torn up my shoes, especially not like griptape does. Never have i ever had a problem doing tricks where my feet leave the deck. The extra grip lets me shove the deck way faster when need be and keeps my feet stuck to it when need be. You guys stilll got me clueless
 
R-Dubya

R-Dubya

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Mitten404 said:
Thats extremely ironic because today i was looking at my deck pins and noticed they were the only thing holding my deckplate to my deck on my TSI. All the primary bolts in the front and back fell out. Im left with 2 sets of 10 deck pins goin down each side. Never have they ever torn up my shoes, especially not like griptape does. Never have i ever had a problem doing tricks where my feet leave the deck. The extra grip lets me shove the deck way faster when need be and keeps my feet stuck to it when need be. You guys stilll got me clueless
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I took my deck plate off and put them in the plate instead of drilling holes in the frame. Don't be such a condescending little prick, I was just answering your question with my own experiences.
 
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R-Dubya said:
Don't be such a condescending little prick, I was just answering your question with my own experiences.
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Are you serious? this is a forum man. I asked for your opinion, you gave me it, and i gave you my thoughts on it.


Connzi machell said:
true, they could make your scooter really undialed and they kill shoes.
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Like i said, idk where your getting that info, but theyve only made my scooter more dialed and ive never had to replace a pair of shoes from a worn out sole from scootering.
 
R-Dubya

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Mitten404 said:
Like i said, idk where your getting that info, but theyve only made my scooter more dialed and ive never had to replace a pair of shoes from a worn out sole from scootering.
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Why even make this thread if all you're gonna do is shut down everyone who tries to answer your question?
 
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Because i made this thread to try to convert people to what i believe is the more logical option? Im not here to give everyone motivational pep speeches, sorry if thats what your looking for.
When is said : So please tell me : Why choose grip tape over deck pins? When has there ever been "to much grip"?, that was intended to be more of a rhetorical question, even though i do like the answers im gettin from it
 
iridebrakeless

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Griptape is convenient, cheap, and you dont have to pull out the whole tool kit to peel the backing off a sheet of griptape and apply it, its pretty much a grip sticker. easy
 
R-Dubya

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Okay. Here is my honest opinion. Maybe you don't ride hard enough to understand why deck pins aren't that great. I just went back and watched your video from March. More than half of it was driveway riding. You did a couple tailwhips. And a flyout backflip. Maybe, just maybe, it's not everybody else in the world that's wrong, maybe it's just you. Understand that? Like I said before, this thread is pointless, you're just looking for an argument regardless of the fact that you have absolutely nothing backing you up besides your worthless opinion, and everybody else so far is telling you that you're wrong.
 
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iridebrakeless said:
Griptape is convenient, cheap, and you dont have to pull out the whole tool kit to peel the backing off a sheet of griptape and apply it, its pretty much a grip sticker. easy
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touche.

In the end, you dont think its all worth it to spend the extra time and money to get much better grip that functions better in all conditions and has all kind of other advantages, in my opinion?
 
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R-Dubya said:
Okay. Here is my honest opinion. Maybe you don't ride hard enough to understand why deck pins aren't that great. I just went back and watched your video from March. More than half of it was driveway riding. You did a couple tailwhips. And a flyout backflip. Maybe, just maybe, it's not everybody else in the world that's wrong, maybe it's just you. Understand that? Like I said before, this thread is pointless, you're just looking for an argument regardless of the fact that you have absolutely nothing backing you up besides your worthless opinion, and everybody else so far is telling you that you're wrong.
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hahah everyone else can suck my balls. i wont ever go back to griptape and i dont think anyone else should either
 
iridebrakeless

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Mitten404 said:
touche.

In the end, you dont think its all worth it to spend the extra time and money to get much better grip that functions better in all conditions and has all kind of other advantages, in my opinion?
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or you could just do a little more findin and get some down hill longboard griptape that is made to pretty much glue your feet to the deck and not bolt it like pins which is why grip tape is better, in my opinion
 
R-Dubya

R-Dubya

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Mitten404 said:
hahah everyone else can suck my balls.
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My point exactly. This thread should be locked, it serves absolutely no purpose except for you to start shit for no reason.

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R-Dubya said:
My point exactly. This thread should be locked, it serves absolutely no purpose except for you to start shit for no reason.

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Yeah, your right man. This thread should be locked because I'm not giving anyone a happy-go-lucky motivational pep speech, oops.

My point of this thread for anyone who still cant see it... :
I still think deck pins are better, i have never had a problem with them. Im sorry that you guys have and i'm sorry that you switched back to griptape. If your deck pins get loose, try throwing a little lock tite on the threads. As far as im concerned, gorilla glue is made for wood. While i might be mistaken and it could work on other things, it obviously doesn't work like locktite which is made for that reason. If your shoes get to torn up, cut down your pins, make them smaller. Your deck pins should be just big enough to fit inside the cracks in your shoe to hold you on, but not make it to hard to let go.
Once again, my conclusion : If these steps are all approached accordingly and you still have problems, sorry. I'm here to help and let people know how great never sliding off my deck, when i do not want to, is.
 
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