Getting a new scooter need help choosing.

Chrispy

Silver Member
My ultra pro is dead haha
The brake, clamp, forks, and headset are totalled. Altogether to fix these problems would cost me like 150$ or so. So i was thinking for that much i might as well get another complete. I have 200$ on deck right now and want to know whats good out there.
I looked at the ao epsilon and the ao delta
https://www.thevaultproscooters.com/shop/epsilon-complete-scooter-le-blackblue
I dont know what to get lol i like a longer deck on the wide side.
Also i feel scared to buy this because i "don't need it" does anyone else here feel buyers remorse when buying shit? Lol
 

GraysonD!!

Silver Member
The phoenix complte is gella cheap on tv for a 4.5 x i think 21 not sure for 249 thats a smokin deal get that.
 

GraysonD!!

Silver Member
It is totally worth it trust me thats the last scooter youll ever need thats a hella deal and a hella conplete
 

BeeFrew

Silver Member
if you dont wanna spend 250 on a complete scooter, you shouldn't scooter. if you feel bad spending money on something you love doing, thats not a good thing

I second that. Seriously tho, phoenix completes are really good for the price so yeah get one or die
 

Chrispy

Silver Member
I feel bad spending money when my parents gotta pay bills for my ass you know what i mean? Like i feel bad spending money like that
 

Beyond16

Bronze member
Here is another possibility. Get the Razor El Dorado plus a pair of River rapids for a total shipped price of around $160. While the stock El Dorado wheels are better than the 841's on that Vault scooter, they wear out very quickly. So far River rapids are the cheapest wheel I have found based on cost per day of riding.

One thing about Razor El Dorado I don't like is the deck width. It is 108mm, 7mm narrower than the Vault deck. El Dorado deck length is 520mm, same as the Vault complete. I would like a really wide deck.

If you buy the Vault complete, you still need money for wheels. I tried those 841 wheels, and got 3 weeks out of the back wheel. Might as well budget for a pair of River rapids or something similar. Razor Eldorado is $71 with free shipping on Amazon today. Amazon has River Rapid for $80 with free shipping. So for $151 (plus some sales tax) you get a scooter and good wheels, along with a spare set of not so good wheels.
 

GraysonD!!

Silver Member
Why would you simply spend more money on wheels then a complete scooter that says something Phoenix complete is the best option no doubt.
 

Chrispy

Silver Member
So do i get the el dorado, the pheonix, or the ao i am very confused because the dorado looks solid for being razor with the integrated headset, hic, and cheap af price. The ao looks solid and is a good peice, the pheonix is he one you guys recommend and i've heard good things buts thats a lotta cash i gotta whip out
 

Austin Forkner

Steel Member
Either get a phoenix complete or a tsi complete but phoenix is cheaper. Don't mess around with a razor complete there's a reason yours is broke.
 

Beyond16

Bronze member
Either get a phoenix complete or a tsi complete but phoenix is cheaper. Don't mess around with a razor complete there's a reason yours is broke.

The El Dorado is pretty strong. It is also a pound or two heavier than some of the other more expensive scooters. I think the El Dorado can be criticized more for weight than for lack of strength or durability. The Razor Ultra Pro is a child's toy compared to the El Dorado.

The Eldorado sells for $179.00 at most places. Amazon just happens to have on sale at the moment.
 

christianewing

Steel Member
What I would do personally is buy another ultra pro and wait for whats coming from Envy. I cant say anything yet but their 2015 stuff is dropping in october and its going to be insane. The prices of the stuff that they are dropping are all on point and in your budget and worth it. As of right now, for 200, I would recommend the Envy Prodigy. I recommend the Prodigy to everyone no matter what skill level they are because for the price its a very good scooter. We have had over 300 of them sold threw the store and not one has came back with any issues.

For the extra 50 bucks the Phoenix would for sure be a step up and very worth it seeing as the bars come 25 high out of the box. Meaning, you most likely would never need another scooter again unless you wanted a certain part or want to change the colors up. It really comes down to how much you realistically want to spend. If you parents could help you a bit the phoenix would be a good choice if you are dead set on buying something this moment. If not, wait about a month and get something thats fresh and new from envy.
 
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