Pete presents his design

Ok, Im doing this cause I have criticised Cory's deck so some people will probably like "stfu that skoot is sik as" or "why don't you do a better one". I still have a slight fear if it, or some features of it will be copied but bleh, I dont think anyone would earn millions by doing it. Here's the design:

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You might be like 'Wtf wooden deck?' but you would probably agree that the step board isnt really the key part of the scooter, also knowpeds and old school scooters have wooden step boards and nothing's wrong with that.

The key parts are the tubes, unfortunately the only obtainable form of 4130 steel in Poland are 16 inch diameter round bars, which are rather unpractical when it comes to scooter construction, so if it will be made the material would be most likely stainless steel.

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The wooden step board will be screwed to these steel strips you see above, and these will be welded to the pipes.

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You might have been wondering wtf is this thing. Well its a couregeous idea of a "brake mount module", which would be an alternative to drilling holes through the key elements of the deck and reducing strength in those places. The brake will be mounted into this module and then the whole thing will be screwed to the last metal strip thats holding the wooden board.

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And now the key part of my design, the post-folding system area. Ive been thinking about how to make it strong and this is the result. Firstly, the neck and the pipes will be screwed with long pipes, then welded, then the angle pipes will be bolted to the neck and welded to both parts (dunno in which order would it it be done better yet).

So here it is. Im planning to have it done in some kind of workshop that makes like car parts or stuff. I dont think it will be hard to make though, all that is needed is to weld it and drill holes precisely.
Now tell me what you think about it, Id like to hear some possibly constructive criticism especially about the brake mount module and the front area. Please point out all the flaws that you see so I can fix them or improve the design in any other way.

Edit: ehh the pics are hosted on my school server and its either not very stabile or its being shut down on days that are free of school. If they dont show up in some time Ill rehost them.
 

Steezeman

Administrator
So is the brake you're thinking of going to be like a Know/Growped one? And would you need a custom headtube?
 
I dont know, I haven't seen how is the brake mounted on peds but it is ment to fit a normal razor brake. And the headtube is the integral part of it so it will have to be custom made as well.
 
Ive been thinking about it but I have no good idea of how to attach it as well as what material should I use and where could I get it. But if I had a way of obtaining those plastic grind bars that you use I might just attach them to the bottom of the pipes and it would work great (I havent watched this video tutorial so correct me if its more complicated than I think).

As for the board, the design gives me a possibility of experimenting with diffrent kinds of boards as well as replacing broken ones, so I might also use an aluminium one but definately not steel as it would be too heavy.

Edit:
Josh Gummersall said:
what program do you use to make that?
Sketchup
 

dre

Member
it's pretty cool except IMO, I don't really like the kickboard. I think that cory's idea was better; make it all part of the deck (as in a metal plate that is designed to fit nicely between or on top of the dropouts). It would also be easier to grip, would take more damage, and wouldn't get waterlogged and crack. Just my two cents, even though I really like the rest of your design!
 

Travis House

Wu-Tang Master
Staff member
I like Petes idea better. Wooden deck would be fine! As long as it wasesnt like half inch ply wood. Im loving the idea. To me the headtube looks like it would be weak? Like its connected pretty low? Not sure though. Really good though Pete, your a smart guy.
 

coryM

Member
that looks good except the folding mech area needs to go up the head more. i will go draw a design i used on my old deck i lost. its such a good one. then maybe i can post it up here.

i just noticed the bolts on the mech through the tubing will also crush the tubing in when tightened. unless its reall thick.
 

Madis

Super Geek
Staff member
pete, that was quite like my friend's idea like for a year already but he hasn't thought about the wooden deck yet, and the foldy system looks a little not reinforced on yours.
 

coryM

Member
i started making a drawing on sketchup but i dont like it much i prefer to draw it on paper. so i might draw it up and show how i made my old deck. it was so sweet. i liked to ride extra sketch and slam onto rails just cause i knew it wouldnt break. :p
 

AX3D

Member
Wow...Looking really good and orignal there Pete, nice work.

I think the idea of wood is good, but I think it would just be more logical to just have some light allimum (sorry, dont know how to spell) instead.

But good work! Any ideas like this really need to be expressed and improved on!
 
Any ideas on how to reinforce the front? I really have no idea how to make it stronger but keep in mind that it will be welded like every place possible.

Ill try to estimate the costs of making it and then Ill decide if it's worth to just test the strenghth of this setup. If occures to be too expensive Ill think of something better.
 

brandon kilbury

Super Moderator
i think it looks sick but the headtube would definitely be a little weak being bolted that low..and idk it seems like the whole thing would be prettty heavy, which matters to me haha. i like the idea of a wooden deck since it would be replaceable and its light. the brake better not be mounted like a knowpeds, they are bolted straight to the deck, no springs or anything, just rubber bushing on the bolts so it gives a little bit. but i got mad at it the other day and ripped it right off the deck
 
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