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second one imo. better deck and will last tons longer

Alright, next argument gets a 2 WEEK ban.

I bought shit for a whole second SPARE set up that would be legit enough to ride. But, I see your point. I buy shit if it's cheap and good, or just a good offer.

I understand how metal is made. I still don't see how dirt from one part of the globe is better than the same quality dirt from another. Phoenix is tough as nails, so I guess China metal is on par with American metals. I've never in my life seen a Phoenix broken at metal (not weld). Until ZG...

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Already been done many times. Stop trying to get stickied. It will come if it's worthy.

I hope to see these everywhere when they come out

I went from stock, to 16, to 18, fiddled with 20, then found my perfect width at 17. I can ride anything though, I suggest using shoulder width as a rule of thumb.

I don't understand how refined metals can be any more or less pure from either country. You're acting as if Phoenix/Proto whatever company doesn't get the best materials. I think Phoenixes are made out of 6061.

If you have a spare pro mod those are best for getting wheels to the core. ROTTWEILER I FUCKING LOVE YOU I HAVE A VAPOR IN MY BROKEN PARTS BIN!

TSI > Lucky Thom > SMX $70 < $80 Everything points to TSI

First bold: What's the point then? Second bold: Who cares? If I showed you a slab of metal from China or America I doubt you could tell the difference... Third: The difference between Proto, Phoenix, and ...Lucky..., is the fact that ZG came out and BAM huge price. Phoenix, Proto etc...

Mine came flawlessly clear coated. Hep Greg has one he painted. It's CrMo, why not paint it yourself!

they bent in under a month. excellent.

good!

Laser cut out, and it's about 2.5 inches tall? Idk never measured lol. and chromo scs would be whack. hic is perfect.

No, no damn rules or shit. This is done purely for the fun of it. There is no technical nit picking or anything. It's done however you want it to be. Brake, no brake, whatever, there is no legit or unlegit way to drift a scooter.

Yeah, next person to go off topic gets a warning if i see it.

A few weeks ago I asked TSI if they would sell me a HIC kit for my Madd Gear. They did much more than that. They hooked me up with an aluminum HIC kit, top cap, and they threw in the clamp for me to review. Not wanting to review something and have it break/suck after writing the review, (like...

those bars are sick