You could do them the way I do them and kinda start rotating your body right when you start the manual. You gotta time it right so that your body keeps rotating slowly while your in the manual, but you keep the scooter straight forward. Then when you're ready just pop your head to the side that you're rotating and kick your legs out. Kicking your legs and deck out is the most important part. Most likely, your body won't do the complete 180. So you need the scooter to do the 180, then once you land you can correct your body. Takes a while to get the hang of them cause every time you land one at first you think you won't be able to fakie.