Danny WarDick said:
so we let more people die for nothing? that's a terrible idea. and no, we did not win this war, and we never will, because the leaders of this country dont want to WIN, they just want it to keep going.Sean O'Connell said:
Mmm... no. There is oil all over the world and we get it from all over the world. I would say less than 25% of the crude oil we process in the states actually comes from the middle east. There are plenty of government resources online that go into detail on the locations and volume but over 50% comes from the west.seankane said:
If the terrorists hated us enough to take the years of planning and determination to carry out the world trade center attack to begin with you really think having our military out there is going to make them hate us anymore? Get real. It is a culture war and they hate western civilization no matter what we do. We can either stop them and prevent further attacks or sit and wait for it. It takes time and money to be an effective terrorist, money that they get from their supporters. We are there to stop the FUNDING of terrorism... cutting it off at the source. Afterall, without money they can't get here and even if they do they can't do any substantial damage without a large income. Also, we have not killed millions of innocent civilians. What does that average out to anyways? Every person who serves in Iraq killed 10-20 people each? I don't think so. It is a civil war over there and they are killing each other. We are there to create a new government for the people to effectively manage the chaos. Pulling our troops out now would be the absolute worst idea ever. The entire region would collapse because we are the backbone. There would be some serious genocide then you'd re think pulling out.Danny WarDick said:
Margaret said:i cant vote yet? 18 in april.
if its clinton and mccain its up in the air for me.
obama<3
PS Hillary fucked up the Board of Ed in New York and the way things are taught [its sucks my moms a teacher] so screw that.
PPS THANK GOD HUKABEE DIDNT WIN.
seankane said:
That is selfish and unAmerican... wait no that is completely American now that I think about it.Danny WarDick said:
you know damned well the only reason we are in iraq is oil, you honestly think bush and other top officials give half a shit about those iraqis? they don't care about them at all. yeah, saddam hussein was a bad guy, but you don't go spend 1.5 trillion dollars and let one million iraqis and 4k americans die for absolutely nothing. why not go help the kids in africa? with the money spent on this war we could almost put an end to poverty in the world, we could get our country out of the shithole we're in right now, and the only reason we're not helping the thousands of kids who will die tonight because of hunger and "helping" iraqis, is because they control the oil. you said awhile back anyone who wouldnt join the army is unamerican, you always say that, and that is ridiculous. i'm sorry i don't want to go die for an unjustified and unconstitutional cause, i'm sorry i don't want to go throw all my dreams away to live in a shithole. i would say that its unamerican to ruin your country to help another, because obviously you don't care about america if you're willing to put america in the ground just to go "help" another country.the_SD_local said:
I'm 14, I don't drive. Don't tell me i'm too young to know what I believe either.the_SD_local said:
Don't start driving then. And when you go overseas to fight poverty make sure the boat you take runs on bio-diesel and if you fly make sure you only fly with the airline that has solar powered bi-planes.Danny WarDick said:
