anyone ever think of this?

[parrish]

ok, so its like HIC but with standard size bars
the forktube is normal size, until it gets up to the end of the headset, then is tapered and smaller in diameter, so that when you slide the shim on its 1 1/8 and you can run normal size bars on it?

 

[R-Dubya]

ok, so its like HIC but with standard size bars
the forktube is normal size, until it gets up to the end of the headset, then is tapered and smaller in diameter, so that when you slide the shim on its 1 1/8 and you can run normal size bars on it?

the HIC shim wouldn't work. derp

 

[Casey Hendrix]

no i never did but thats a good idea

 

[Devin Parker]

haha yeah i thought of that last night actually and i just forgot about it cuz i think the fork would be a LOT weaker

 

[R-Dubya]

No it's not. The HIC shim has to be 1 3/8 so that it compresses the headset. If it was tapered for the HIC shim to be 1 1/8 it would do absolutely nothing.

 

[Devin Parker]

the HIC shim wouldn't work. derp

yeah but they would just have to make smaller shims

edit: ohhhhhh i gotcha yeah that wouldnt actually compress so yeah it wouldnt work

 

[Stackies]

Ryan Erwin said that System scooters was working on a compression like HIC but with standard sized bars

 

[parrish]

this man makes a valid point
you could have a little thing on the bottom of the shim that sticks out, almost like a flange on a grip

 

[Jon.]

the shim would still have a lip like it normally would so it could work.

 

[R-Dubya]

yeah but they would just have to make smaller shims

You don't get it. Headsets have an inner diameter of 1 1/8 inches. The reason HIC and SCS works is because their outer diameter is greater than that, causing them to compress the headset when the top cap is tightened. If the OD of the HIC shim was 1 1/8 inches, all it would do is tighten down onto the non-tapered portion of the fork. It would be the exact same as putting 1 1/8 bars directly on your fork with no compression system and tightening them, except with more pieces.

 

[parrish]

yes, thats why i made the last post, you could put a little washer on the bottom

 

[Devin Parker]

You don't get it. Headsets have an inner diameter of 1 1/8 inches. The reason HIC and SCS works is because their outer diameter is greater than that, causing them to compress the headset when the top cap is tightened. If the OD of the HIC shim was 1 1/8 inches, all it would do is tighten down onto the non-tapered portion of the fork. It would be the exact same as putting 1 1/8 bars directly on your fork with no compression system and tightening them, except with more pieces.

yeah i figured that out...i edited it

 

[R-Dubya]

idk dude, washers bend way too easy. I made a stack of 2-3 steel washers as a compression cap when I didn't have one, and I still bent the hell out of them. Altogether, the combination of different headtube sizes, having to know EXACTLY where to make the tapered portion of the fork, the fact that you'd pretty much have to run a specific company's fork/undersized HIC combo to get it to work correctly, different stack heights of various headsets making it impossible to make one specific taper length that would work for all scooter/headset combos, I see it being way more trouble than just getting regular HIC or just tapering your bars.

And yeah sorry buddhasRus, I saw that after I replied lol

 

[parrish]

well, maybe in the future all decks would have the exact same ht length and this would be the standard, idk though, i wouldent run it cause itd be too light

 

[R-Dubya]

well, maybe in the future all decks would have the exact same ht length and this would be the standard, idk though, i wouldent run it cause itd be too light

You'd have to have the taper precisely the right length in order to keep it from screwing the headset up. It would be impossible. Regardless of the difference in stack heights of different headsets, even for one headset you'd have to have it the perfect length so it wouldn't just bottom out on the taper and not compress the headset fully, but still not allow any play in the top seal or any other part of the headset. It would be like trying to make an HIC shim that would line up perfectly with the top of the fork for every single scooter setup in the world.

 

[Rob.]

i have a fork that has a tapered forktube. it's threaded for a half inch then small .. like 1 inch threadless on top of that. the bars are standard sized and slide right up it.

this seems like an ALRIGHT idea, but the forks would have to be even beefier to not break, and then the bolt would have to be just the right size, and the washer and whatnot.

too much effort

 

[Keatonspence]

it really isnt as hard as yall are making it seem like, i cant explain how, untill i figure out how to draw on cadd ( learning ). But it isnt too difficult, good idea..

 

[BrendanO'Brien.]

Just keep standard HIC! Its simple, never comes loose, and light. Why mess with perfection?

 

[Isaac Coy]

just make the headtube smaller in diameter so you can make a smaller headset so the shim will work.

duhhhhh.

 

[cody]

Well first of all you could cut a piece of steel and make a stronger washer.