I don't know, but at least I know how to spell are. want me to post pictures? my dropout is about to fall off. Matt McKeen is on district, he can have a new deck every month, mine lasted about 3. its good for grinds as in feel but in quality the aluminum is like paper. Learn to spell and get your facts straight. a deck with thin dropouts = wears down fast if you like grinding
edit: haters gonna hate, but the best deck for quality grinds...ambush. I had one for 5 months and I sold it to a kid, he's had it for about 9. the dropouts are fine. ROB PLEASE DON'T BAN ME