they suck so bad i had them for a lil bit (like 2 days) and they got so bent and then im riding kinda fast and tried to jump somthin and snap the bar broke i fell and i was pissed
i think ur an idiot for even asking.. but all nuubs get there shot.. but yea they suck ass.. copper is not a very dence metal so there for the stress max is way less then steel or alu. there fore not a good metal for scoots.