i think about the mainstream comment nick, if you're trying to pick a fight with me, that every person out there before they make it big, is so much better for two reasons: they don't care about shitting out albums every 2 months in order to make more money, so they can focus and spend more time on making good music. and two, that they are trying harder to get noticed so they make their stuff better. I was never really into any of these artists but i could listen to any musician before they were in the lime light and there is a big difference. Just go look at Jay Z