evolution

lol i honestly done even care what people believe, I got my veiws and if you talk shit on them i'll talk it back. If you dont want to argue about it then stfu. Jake Reid just wont drop it and get on with his fucking life.
 

seankane

Member
Jordan said:
theres no way we all came from microorganisms and a pool of gas and lava and shit.

why not? have you seen how crazy the world is? it doesn't seem far fetched at all to me.

Travis House said:
...Its pretty much proven 100%. I think there really is no discussion.

Science: 1

God: 0

obviously i believe in evolution and i still can't understand how people can say it isn't true. but that doesn't mean science wins over god. in my opinion theres no reason science and god have to be 2 different sides. in my opinion, god had some hand in creating the universe, and that created everything that exists today, which eventually led to life and evolution and where we are now. that way everyone wins. sweet.
 

jake[whc]

Member
Matt Dibble said:
John Radtke said:
Jake Reid said:
john radtke needs to see this

id is stupid.

haha ok buddy i watched it. and i agree too that your an ape. but im not, things are too complex to just happen out of nowhere so im against the first part of it. i do believe that creatures can adapt, but honestly the changes from one animal into another would be too drastic for it to even live so i dont believe in that part. so that is my opinion dont like it then dont gripe at me for it because its not changing anything.

get a life and get fucked jake reid, yours truly,
John Radtke =)

while i disagree with you, i like how your standing up for yourself/what you believe.
what the fuck is your problem man

i said it cause you did need to see it, cause i couldnt do anything to show you what i meant.

i don't give a shit if you think god put you on this earth i just wanted to show you why people believe/know why evolution exists. but you are too caught up in 'oh its impossible'. i have said this one billion times, its over that great of time that the animals dont even realize it is happening to them, we are evolving as we speak, however the differences wont be pronounced for a few hundred thousands years!!!1!
 

jake[whc]

Member
seankane said:
Jake Reid said:
Pete Pachota said:
I don't know if USA is the only country where people argue whether to 'believe' in scientific facts or not.

scientific facts are being proven wrong and right everyday.

oh god, not again...

scientific facts are just that, facts. maybe scientific theories are being proven wrong, but not facts.

i made a mistake HOWEVER

compound and moral yes. like 'that tree has green leafs'

science not quite. i agree that it is a fact is used for the analysis etc of situations cause its a fact at the time. but in one thousand/hundred years perhaps some of the facts we use now will be viewed as bull shit. just like the ones from a thousand/hundred years ago to today. eg atomic structure.

evolution isnt 100% fact. its a part theory. there is alot of evidence but its still just a theory. like most of stuff we are taught in schools are theories so in ten years from now its guaranteed to have some topics that will be proven wrong.
 

jake[whc]

Member
maybe if you read what people have said it will save you time.

"its over that great of time that the animals dont even realize it is happening to them, we are evolving as we speak"

and most probably we will evolve to adapt to global warming but it will take a hella long time.
 
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what the fuck is your problem man

i said it cause you did need to see it, cause i couldnt do anything to show you what i meant.

i don't give a shit if you think god put you on this earth i just wanted to show you why people believe/know why evolution exists. but you are too caught up in 'oh its impossible'. i have said this one billion times, its over that great of time that the animals dont even realize it is happening to them, we are evolving as we speak, however the differences wont be pronounced for a few hundred thousands years!!!1!


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my problem is, you just wont stop bugging me about it and trying to convince me of some point you think you have, ive made my decision.

so, shut the fuck up, and drop it kid.
 
hah sorry dude, ive made my decicion. jake reid is just a dumbass and wont stop arguing about it. Im done with it man so fuckin drop it.

how can you call yourself smart if you arent even looking at everyones view anyways and thinking on it. trust me, ive looked into evolution and i just dont buy some of it k? does that concern you? Fuck no. so maybe you should actually read up on shit and form your own opinion so you might have something intelligent to say other than "thats what everyone else says". Alot of the time we dont even care to know anything about shit people say we just believe it. So actually be a smart person and read all aspects and think on it if your really going to argue about it.

I dont believe that one species can evolve into another.
I do believe that creatures adapt to their environment, but not as drasticly as evolution portrays it.
I dont believe that the universe exploded into existence, it had to have been made.

neither side has been proven wrong, so you might as well learn both aspects of it.
 

seankane

Member
Tommy Napolitan said:
alright sean tell me if you think this makes any sense:

my one friend is really religious and he doesnt believe in evolution at all. he says "if evolution is real then why arent monkeys evolving now?" i always tell him that the only reason we did evolve is for a reason (climate, terrain, food, etc.) he still says b/s. like he thinks that if we evolved once hat were going to keep doing it, he doesnt understand that we evolved for a purpose to keep our species alive. like i bet if we didnt evolve humans would have been gone long ago. i believe we need to evolve/adapt to the world around us in order to keep going. so say global warming happens and everything floods over the centuries humans will evolve/adapt to a form that suits us to love off our surroundings.

well first, just to clear something up, species don't evolve out of need. its the law of natural selection. evolution is random, if it works and is a positive thing for the species, then it will thrive. if its negative, the species will die out.

will we keep evolving? according to the theory, yes, but i don't see it happening like that. right now, the things scientists are doing with genetics are fucking scary. seriously, scary. in the near future geneticists will be playing god. imagine a day when you'll be able to pick if you want your child to be a boy or a girl and the color of their eyes/hair. its like you're going to store and buying what model of child you want. genes will be "edtited" so people have better strength and physical features. of course it has good ramifications: making people less susceptible to heary disease and cancer. but still, i want nothing to do with that. when people start playing god, i see bad things happening.

also, john's right. you should never try and force your beliefs on someone. make a valid point and try to explain them if you want, but its never right to try and make someone believe anything. as much as i COMPLETELY disagree with what john thinks, its his right to believe that so nobody should give him or anyone else shit about it.

edit: i dont know if thats the kind of answer you were looking for, if not ill try to clear it up a little bit
 
seankane said:
Tommy Napolitan said:
alright sean tell me if you think this makes any sense:

my one friend is really religious and he doesnt believe in evolution at all. he says "if evolution is real then why arent monkeys evolving now?" i always tell him that the only reason we did evolve is for a reason (climate, terrain, food, etc.) he still says b/s. like he thinks that if we evolved once hat were going to keep doing it, he doesnt understand that we evolved for a purpose to keep our species alive. like i bet if we didnt evolve humans would have been gone long ago. i believe we need to evolve/adapt to the world around us in order to keep going. so say global warming happens and everything floods over the centuries humans will evolve/adapt to a form that suits us to love off our surroundings.

well first, just to clear something up, species don't evolve out of need. its the law of natural selection. evolution is random, if it works and is a positive thing for the species, then it will thrive. if its negative, the species will die out.

will we keep evolving? according to the theory, yes, but i don't see it happening like that. right now, the things scientists are doing with genetics are fucking scary. seriously, scary. in the near future geneticists will be playing god. imagine a day when you'll be able to pick if you want your child to be a boy or a girl and the color of their eyes/hair. its like you're going to store and buying what model of child you want. genes will be "edtited" so people have better strength and physical features. of course it has good ramifications: making people less susceptible to heary disease and cancer. but still, i want nothing to do with that. when people start playing god, i see bad things happening.

also, john's right. you should never try and force your beliefs on someone. make a valid point and try to explain them if you want, but its never right to try and make someone believe anything. as much as i COMPLETELY disagree with what john thinks, its his right to believe that so nobody should give him or anyone else shit about it.

edit: i dont know if thats the kind of answer you were looking for, if not ill try to clear it up a little bit
can't they already do that to an extent? like the boy/girl part?
 

seankane

Member
Danny WarDick said:
can't they already do that to an extent? like the boy/girl part?

i'm not sure, i haven't looked into it too much lately. if they can, then its not an option that available to the public, thankfully.
 
seankane said:
Danny WarDick said:
can't they already do that to an extent? like the boy/girl part?

i'm not sure, i haven't looked into it too much lately. if they can, then its not an option that available to the public, thankfully.
we read an article the other day in int. physics/chemisty and supposedly overseas somewhere you can do it, its like a couple hundred thousand dollars though.
 

Jake Carlyon

Steel Member
seankane said:
Tommy Napolitan said:
alright sean tell me if you think this makes any sense:

my one friend is really religious and he doesnt believe in evolution at all. he says "if evolution is real then why arent monkeys evolving now?" i always tell him that the only reason we did evolve is for a reason (climate, terrain, food, etc.) he still says b/s. like he thinks that if we evolved once hat were going to keep doing it, he doesnt understand that we evolved for a purpose to keep our species alive. like i bet if we didnt evolve humans would have been gone long ago. i believe we need to evolve/adapt to the world around us in order to keep going. so say global warming happens and everything floods over the centuries humans will evolve/adapt to a form that suits us to love off our surroundings.

well first, just to clear something up, species don't evolve out of need. its the law of natural selection. evolution is random, if it works and is a positive thing for the species, then it will thrive. if its negative, the species will die out.

will we keep evolving? according to the theory, yes, but i don't see it happening like that. right now, the things scientists are doing with genetics are fucking scary. seriously, scary. in the near future geneticists will be playing god. imagine a day when you'll be able to pick if you want your child to be a boy or a girl and the color of their eyes/hair. its like you're going to store and buying what model of child you want. genes will be "edtited" so people have better strength and physical features. of course it has good ramifications: making people less susceptible to heary disease and cancer. but still, i want nothing to do with that. when people start playing god, i see bad things happening.

also, john's right. you should never try and force your beliefs on someone. make a valid point and try to explain them if you want, but its never right to try and make someone believe anything. as much as i COMPLETELY disagree with what john thinks, its his right to believe that so nobody should give him or anyone else shit about it.

edit: i dont know if thats the kind of answer you were looking for, if not ill try to clear it up a little bit

ha, sounds just like off that movie gattaca
 

CodyChirichiello

Steel Member
i personally believe in the theory of evolution but maybe you people can combine the two theories. that there is a "god" but not exactly how we see it. he did create but in the sense that he just made everything exist. he created the universe but he also created the universe so that everything would follow its own path and evolve as it needs. it is basically evolution but instead of saying that the universe came out of nowhere that something created it, oh well.
 
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