ive landed em flat like 3 times. i try em off my kicker, i throw it when im at 180 and then i stop spinning. any tips on when to throw it cuz these are a pain in the ass
When i do mine flat or flyout, I always throw the bar at about 270, Thats way, if you stop spinning at the 270, you will almost have em, then practice em from there.
i do my bars half way, i throw the bar and the second u catch it pull around like when your doing a 540 and u get a 360 and u do that final pull to make it around its kind of though just figuring out what works for u but try that see if it works
I would say throw the barspin late like everyone else but my friend learned them by throwing a early ass barspin before even 180 then he locked em and now he throws em like a sec before the 360 even ends, Which goes to show everyone learns differently. I would suggest that you get your kicker throw the bar where it feels it should be thrown in the spin and maybe take off one foot to see the results. But thats just how I learn tricks.