IF YOU GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCOOTERING CLICK HERE

parrish

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http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2012/...re-changing-skateboarding-and-why-it-matters/

Skateboarding is obviously much bigger, and much more threatened by corporations than we are, but all of the same principles apply. You ADHD ass kids better read the whole thing, this piece perfectly illustrates (with pictures too!) why you shouldn't give a fuck about any company that isn't run/driven by riders. I do though, back companies like Addict and Phoenix (even though phoenix's marketing needs a complete overhaul). I love scootering so much, and I just want everyone else to express themselves as much as possible through it. The fuckers who just want our money aren't trying to stop that, but self expression isn't the most profitable thing, so this isn't the place for them.
 

Hunter Treviranus

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"skateboarding is separating into two poles: one where a few businesses and a very small group of skaters are making lots of money, while everyone else is fucked. Sadly, our new ideology allows us to see this as normal, when in reality this is a very unusual state of affairs for skateboarding."


good quote. sadly true.
 

BenJelinek

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its really sad but the same thing is going to happen to scootering within 10-15 years so enjoy the fuck out of it while you're still allowed! just wait till the sport is at its creative peak and thats when the greedy old men will hop in to the equation and try and take over. (dont tell me thats mgp, mgp doesnt even compare to vans or adidas).

awesome read, though
 

matr!

Silver Member
Shit made by skaters for skaters is what everyone should buy. Look at Baker and Deathwish and shit. Reynolds is rolling in big money off that shit and he's legit as they come.

If you can shred and you make good shit everyone will buy it.
 

Micah.

Steel Member
why dont we do what we used to do: rich ass niggaz buy shawn white scooters and eagle wheels and light em up
 

Rob.

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i dont care as long as they're good parts. shit could come from a multi million dollar company in it for profits or the backyard welder who makes shit in his spare time

as long as it is good to ride.
 

parrish

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Rob I don't think you read the whole thing with an open mind. It completely explained and layed out why shit will go bad when corporations get involved. Look at fucking sports dude. You're telling me before ESPN the only reason people played sports was to win? Nahh man nahh
 

matr!

Silver Member
Everything fucking sucks now. Look at V8 supercars in Australia, it's full of fucking mercedes and volvos and shit. F1 downgraded from V10 to V8, and now they've downgraded to V6 turbo. Pirelli was told to make tires that degrade quicker so racers would have to pit more often rather than taking calculated risks in aggression. DRS makes it impossible for a driver to make a skilful pass in a corner because they'll just get taken back on the straight. It's practically "Who has the best pitting algorithm" rather than "Who has the best driver and car". Regulations are so tight that practically every car is the same.

I blame it all on Red Bull and their commercialization of the sport. Don't be surprised if they do the same fucking thing to skating, BMX, MTB and every other fucking sport they try to own.

The longer this shit stays away from big commercial sponsors the better.
 

.Gerrit

ya boy boo radley
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Everything fucking sucks now. Look at V8 supercars in Australia, it's full of fucking mercedes and volvos and shit. F1 downgraded from V10 to V8, and now they've downgraded to V6 turbo. Pirelli was told to make tires that degrade quicker so racers would have to pit more often rather than taking calculated risks in aggression. DRS makes it impossible for a driver to make a skilful pass in a corner because they'll just get taken back on the straight. It's practically "Who has the best pitting algorithm" rather than "Who has the best driver and car". Regulations are so tight that practically every car is the same.

I blame it all on Red Bull and their commercialization of the sport. Don't be surprised if they do the same fucking thing to skating, BMX, MTB and every other fucking sport they try to own.

The longer this shit stays away from big commercial sponsors the better.
Don't knock volvos.
The V6 turbos are nice, they produce the same horsepower and torque and are more fuel efficient, I don't see what's wrong with that. As for Pirelli, that's more Bernie than Red Bull.
However, Bernie is run by whatever money he gets from large teams, mainly Red Bull and Ferrari. The fact that Red Bull already has that much money shows how much they've sucked skating dry.
Also, this year with the new regulations there's plenty of innovative body designs.

But yeah large companies with no vested interest can only bring ruin.
 

Rob.

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Rob I don't think you read the whole thing with an open mind. It completely explained and layed out why shit will go bad when corporations get involved. Look at fucking sports dude. You're telling me before ESPN the only reason people played sports was to win? Nahh man nahh

Read the first three words of my first post.

I ride because it's fun. Where my parts come from doesn't concern me in the slightest, only how they feel.

Edit: I also don't care about where the sport goes. Scootering is not my life. It's a hobby. A sport I do for fun. It's something to burn some cash on and enjoy doing with my friends. I do competitions here and there but again, it's not the basis of my life.

I don't care what corporations come in to make a buck or what companies go down the shitter
it really doesn't concern me.
 
Read the first three words of my first post.

I ride because it's fun. Where my parts come from doesn't concern me in the slightest, only how they feel.

Edit: I also don't care about where the sport goes. Scootering is not my life. It's a hobby. A sport I do for fun. It's something to burn some cash on and enjoy doing with my friends. I do competitions here and there but again, it's not the basis of my life.
I don't care what corporations come in to make a buck or what companies go down the shitter
it really doesn't concern me.

Hobbies are part of life and a huge thing people forget to have. People are so wrapped up in technology and other worldy distractions they forget that the purpose of life is no purpose other than to try to be good to others and go have fun. Hobbies ARE EXPRESSION. They're IMPORTANT. I could name so many "buddies" I have that have zero interests, just people, technology, TV/games and maybe weed. They have nothing that defines them and they aren't as happy as they could be. If I have a hobby that I need materials to make the hobby necessary, I want to be able to take it as far as I want to take it. I want the materials that appeal most to ME. I want the most efficient materials that consider my demands because it fucking makes sense. Corporations KILL competition, and competition MAKES THINGS BETTER/CUSTOMIZABLE/MORE APPEALING TO THE CONSUMERS constant demands for improvement and customization. When a new company with great ideas and products surfaces, they can easily just be drowned out by the flood of advertisement, cheap prices, and a bandwagon of already established consumers using their product.

i dont care as long as they're good parts. shit could come from a multi million dollar company in it for profits or the backyard welder who makes shit in his spare time

as long as it is good to ride.


But you should know that corporations aren't trying to make good parts, they're trying to make semi-decent parts as cheaply and abundantly as possible with a vague set of specs that loosely appeals to as many people as they possibly can to make as much money as the possibly can. They don't give a shit about the wants or needs of their riders, just so long as their shit keeps getting bought. Now that's not a bad thing for people who just want to ride, because sure, the parts are ride-able and affordable, but what about those who want to be passionate about their hobby? Those who want to push the sport to its limits and create their riding tool so it best suits their style? They don't get a chance, because small business and huge corp rarely coexist, and now I HAVE to buy the corporate product because the small company with really good parts can't establish a reputation and ultimately goes out of business. If corporations and small rider-owned companies could simultaneously exist, then I see no problem and it's almost as simple as the way you word it, but the FACT is that these monopolistic corporations limit the spread of ideas and growth. I can't get better parts/materials because monopolies are prohibiting them from ever being produced to start with. Think how TSI ALMOST WASN'T A SCOOTER COMPANY because it couldn't face competition. Monopolies are almost NEVER a good thing. Outer example: Doesn't anyone else think the iPod is bullshit? Literally almost no other mp3 competitor exists because of apple's patents and solidified rep as THEE mp3 salesmen. So I have to pay 200 dollars for a rectangle that: only has 8gb memory, no room for sd cards, incredibly restricted and limiting interface, forced compatibilities and so on...yet that's the only decent mp3 player I can buy so I probably end up buying it. Bullshit.

I also don't care about where the sport goes. Scootering is not my life. It's a hobby. A sport I do for fun.

You don't have to want the sport to blowup, or become more developed, or get more popular to care about its riders. It's the bigger picture. The fact that it's your hobby shows you think its important to have fun, and the growth of the sport is more about the growth of choice and fun that the riders can be given. People can keep making bank, the rider population can drop, the subject can be unspoken of, but people enjoying themselves to the maximum, that I think is important.
 
In the past skateboarding was saw as a rebellion and a outcast to society. The sport was not nearly as big as it is now, since in the past skating was often seen as connected to destruction, drugs, punks, etc. But, in today's time with huge corporations are trying to get a hold of it while they see the sport grow. With scootering as such a small sport currently, in my opinion we need to try to grow the sport but not in the exact same direction as skateboarding that will lead us to giant companies trying to make the cheddar off our hobby/sport.
 

matr!

Silver Member
I don't really care for this shit any more either after the way the sport has gone in just the recent years. I think it's bad that people who are interested in the sport progression buy shit parts off shit people because that's not how a sport progresses; or at least in a good fashion. If you care what happens to the sport, buy rider owned. If you want to have fun, buy the cheapest shit that works for what you need. If you don't give a fuck, don't buy anything.

That being said even if everybody bought buyer owned you'll never save this sport. It's been tainted with the kids and the soccer mums and the 'pretty is better than performance' mentality. If you actually gave a fuck about the sport you'd nuke it and take up skateboarding.
 
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