integrated top cap into scs/hic?

[alexallupinthis]

basically a top cap would be welded/cnced to the scs/hic shim. i dont see why this wouldnt work, and god knows the less small and easy to lose parts the better. it really wouldnt have a use other then making the whole scooter look cleaner. thoughts?

 

[Derek Seay]

I dont think it would really be neccesary.

 

[alexallupinthis]

I dont think it would really be neccesary.

i didnt say it was necessary, was integrated necessary? i just think it has the potential to make a scooter look alot cleaner, less bumps and more one-piece flowiness

 

[Tom Cirbee]

I don't think that an integrated bearing cap would compress the centering sleeve as much as a separate bearing cap would. The only thing compressing it would be the bolt screwing into the star nut of your fork or the top cap of your HIC system. Also, the integrated cap would have to be compatible with all headsets. Otherwise, the company manufacturing this new integrated cap compression system will have to have/make a headset to work with it. AND if they choose to do that, it is unlikely that many people will buy the compression set and headset combo together since it will probably be an expensive set of parts.

 

[alexallupinthis]

I don't think that an integrated bearing cap would compress the centering sleeve as much as a separate bearing cap would. The only thing compressing it would be the bolt screwing into the star nut of your fork or the top cap of your HIC system. Also, the integrated cap would have to be compatible with all headsets. Otherwise, the company manufacturing this new integrated cap compression system will have to have/make a headset to work with it. AND if they choose to do that, it is unlikely that many people will buy the compression set and headset combo together since it will probably be an expensive set of parts.

dont tell me that scooter people dont go and spend WAAAYYY too much money on scooters, look. like half the scooter community has a reventon, those are 250 bucks, so if a reputable company made one, people would buy it.

 

[Bennett_J]

I dont think it would really be neccesary.

Considering I have snapped two HIC topcaps and I wasn't even riding that hard... I would say it would be awesome.

 

[Tom Cirbee]

dont tell me that scooter people dont go and spend WAAAYYY too much money on scooters

I never said that people didn't spend too much money on scooters... Spending too much money on scooters is not a good thing. You pretty much just said that people are going to buy this product even if it is extremely expensive. There are much better compression choices on the market that are priced very well. If the company is "reputable", that doesn't mean people will buy it. It doesn't matter if PROTO, Phoenix, Tilt, and every other company collaborated and made it together. There just won't be a need for people to spend a ton of money on a compression system that won't be better than any other.

like half the scooter community has a reventon, those are 250 bucks

Its understandable for decks like the Reventon, or headsets like the Cane Creek 110. They are very expensive, but WELL worth the money. This compression idea does not seem like a game-changer to me. IMO it wont make your scooter much more dialed at all.

if a reputable company made one, people would buy it.

Not really. Its not about whether people would buy it if a company were to make it, its more about whether a company would be willing to produce this knowing that the costs-to-profit ratio is unknown.

 

[Rob.]

I've never snapped a top cap, and if it's welded it might be impossible to compress the SCS' onto the bars/forks.
considering it's solid.

 

[tylerbillman]

That would be awesome but the bars would touch the headset bearings which isn't how HIC or SCS or anything is supposed to work. Cool idea maybe but not practical.

 

[Tom Cirbee]

Just to avoid any confusion in this thread.

TOP CAP

BEARING CAP

 

[James.]

they use it on the scooter zone hic clamp and it works fine.. much easier and its just less parts to lose

 

[danielBMXisFUN]

yeah it wouldnt have much clamping power unless they put a slit on it (like the scooter zone hic).

 

[Chris Vincent]

Blunt Quad clamps are used to replace your bearing cap, and it makes the scooter look alot more flush. I don't see why they couldn't do this with an scs.

 

[DavidBryson]

sounds like a good idea

 

[Brock]

Sounds quite pointless and would just cause many issues with compatibility with things like threaded inserts and would also make the scs unable to be tightened properly because it wouldn't be able to clamp together in the middle. It would also make the scs unable to be stretched to fit different forks/bars. Also Bennett you say you have snapped two topcaps then why the hell would you want your topcap integrated into your scs, that would just man that when you do break your topcap instead of pay a few dollars for a new one you would have to replace your whole scs? Stupid idea.

 

[Thom Cat]

 

[Tyler P]

so......

 

[issac p]

Blunt Quad clamps are used to replace your bearing cap, and it makes the scooter look alot more flush. I don't see why they couldn't do this with an scs.

thats what i was thinking.
and i dont think an integrated bearing cap would cause any problems. if you are talking about an integrated compression ring, then yeah that might be hard to compress.

 

[Broccoli1]

basically a top cap would be welded/cnced to the scs/hic shim. i dont see why this wouldnt work, and god knows the less small and easy to lose parts the better. it really wouldnt have a use other then making the whole scooter look cleaner. thoughts?

How would it make it look cleaner? These parts are hidden anyway

 

[Dom Marconi]

^That's exactly what I'm thinking. This would make it loads more expensive, and be completely pointless. If anything it's detrimental to the shims performance.