Haha, Martin is awesome at riding them, he can do backflips and 540s and he's done dubwhips and 720s to foam. They're pretty hard to ride, I rode his scooter at the comp. I think that they're a bad idea. that kind of frame can't be strong in anyway, one guy at the comp had his scooter bent to the ground, lol.
Martin, better stick to normal scooters.