james edixon
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discuss? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc PART 2 now up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Ue6REkeTA
Kony 2012.
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3rd thread now. Goddamn.
There have been a LOT of talk on this whole Kony Conspiracy and I don't know if you guys have run into it yet but this was something I wrote in defense of this cause.
Honestly, this makes me fucking furious.
I understand and read the whole thing, which is probably more than half the people who are reposting this conspiracy have done. Two weeks ago none of us over privileged white suburban internet renegades even knew this existed and all of a sudden either everyone cares and wants to do something OR they see how everyone else is hopping on the bandwagen and now have a conspiracy to use to piss off people who are for this cause.
Yes, they are sooooooo marketed it's almost creepy, "Action Kits" ready to order and an amazing film behind them to boost support but these are our tools as activists in 2012. This is all we have left. We have had a long history protesting as humans but the old way no longer works, the people in the countries with power just don't give a shit anymore, they are sucked into the internet, their own lives and apathy controls every day life. Face it, you're life is pretty sweet, where is Uganda anyway? Know what I mean?
The allegations that the charity money is not going entirely to Uganda are probably true but any one who knows anything about campaigns like this understands that hundreds of thousands of posters, action kits, advertising, sound gear for rallys, travel back and forth from Uganda (both activists and Ugandan locals) and just THE FILM ITSELF... This shit isn't free, in fact it's a LOT of money. This author of this piece was digging for something to discredit the VC and we all accept that things like this are not rainbows and unicorns perfect. When you're dealing with the devil in his own land, you know you're out matched.
A very wise woman said to me: education cures ignorance.
"it's ignorance that usually causes problems in the first place or the reason why problems aren't solved. The main purpose here is to educate us and the world about issues that are still happening in today's modern society"
And there is NO harm in that, this author cares not for the children in Uganda or finding a practical way for solving this atrocity, he is conveniently posting this at the height of the campaign to get huge amounts of blog traffic and get his name out there, maybe get a job out of it after all he is only a sociology and political science student at Acadia University. Job fairs for that line of work are rare. Who is more selfish?
In closing this Grant Oyston fellow may see the flaws of the current mission and he may be somehow convinced the IC and funding a civil war (and he assumes the national Ugandan army are just as bad as Kony's?!) but the fact remains they are the ones teaching us about sacrifice, compassion and the solo struggle against one evil human being and he is just reading about it in starbucks on his iPhone.
So I say: If you don't feel right giving money to somebody who might arm a Ugandan soldier with it, DONT BUY A DAMN THING. Make your own posters or hell just buy some spray paint and make sure the distracted, apathetic and disinterested people of this wasteland western world know in your own way. Just don't find yourself fighting the wrong war just to be different.
Honestly, this makes me fucking furious.
I understand and read the whole thing, which is probably more than half the people who are reposting this conspiracy have done. Two weeks ago none of us over privileged white suburban internet renegades even knew this existed and all of a sudden either everyone cares and wants to do something OR they see how everyone else is hopping on the bandwagen and now have a conspiracy to use to piss off people who are for this cause.
Yes, they are sooooooo marketed it's almost creepy, "Action Kits" ready to order and an amazing film behind them to boost support but these are our tools as activists in 2012. This is all we have left. We have had a long history protesting as humans but the old way no longer works, the people in the countries with power just don't give a shit anymore, they are sucked into the internet, their own lives and apathy controls every day life. Face it, you're life is pretty sweet, where is Uganda anyway? Know what I mean?
The allegations that the charity money is not going entirely to Uganda are probably true but any one who knows anything about campaigns like this understands that hundreds of thousands of posters, action kits, advertising, sound gear for rallys, travel back and forth from Uganda (both activists and Ugandan locals) and just THE FILM ITSELF... This shit isn't free, in fact it's a LOT of money. This author of this piece was digging for something to discredit the VC and we all accept that things like this are not rainbows and unicorns perfect. When you're dealing with the devil in his own land, you know you're out matched.
A very wise woman said to me: education cures ignorance.
"it's ignorance that usually causes problems in the first place or the reason why problems aren't solved. The main purpose here is to educate us and the world about issues that are still happening in today's modern society"
And there is NO harm in that, this author cares not for the children in Uganda or finding a practical way for solving this atrocity, he is conveniently posting this at the height of the campaign to get huge amounts of blog traffic and get his name out there, maybe get a job out of it after all he is only a sociology and political science student at Acadia University. Job fairs for that line of work are rare. Who is more selfish?
In closing this Grant Oyston fellow may see the flaws of the current mission and he may be somehow convinced the IC and funding a civil war (and he assumes the national Ugandan army are just as bad as Kony's?!) but the fact remains they are the ones teaching us about sacrifice, compassion and the solo struggle against one evil human being and he is just reading about it in starbucks on his iPhone.
So I say: If you don't feel right giving money to somebody who might arm a Ugandan soldier with it, DONT BUY A DAMN THING. Make your own posters or hell just buy some spray paint and make sure the distracted, apathetic and disinterested people of this wasteland western world know in your own way. Just don't find yourself fighting the wrong war just to be different.
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Kieran Mayhew
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Well I know for one that I reposted the video because it moved me, and made me think about problems outside of my own average life. My life that is actually sick compared to theirs.
Exactly. There are a lot of people getting way to into this and are taking this in the total wrong direction
*Waits for kids to now hop on the T-House bandwagon*
Which I'm already on, making me a cool hipster.
Haha, for real though. I said on FB I don't see why were 'helping' Uganda find Kony when we could probably do it easily and MUCH faster. US is badass, Canada is too nice to kill anyone so stay out of it Travis
Lmao, only kidding
Which I'm already on, making me a cool hipster.
Haha, for real though. I said on FB I don't see why were 'helping' Uganda find Kony when we could probably do it easily and MUCH faster. US is badass, Canada is too nice to kill anyone so stay out of it Travis
Lmao, only kidding 
Bennett_J
Steel Member
Yeah awareness! Lets all care about this until some politician is caught up in a drug or sex scandal in a week. I love our nations mentality of distraction and will to help.
I saw the movie 4 years ago (invisible children- released 2003), I donated then, sat and watched as everyone ignored the issue. But all of a sudden this is a major issue? No, americans are just feeble minded shitfucks. No action will be taken, and no one will care because something new and interesting will "surface" in a few weeks.
Man up and stand for what you believe, don't help causes for social acceptance.
I saw the movie 4 years ago (invisible children- released 2003), I donated then, sat and watched as everyone ignored the issue. But all of a sudden this is a major issue? No, americans are just feeble minded shitfucks. No action will be taken, and no one will care because something new and interesting will "surface" in a few weeks.
Man up and stand for what you believe, don't help causes for social acceptance.
Oh Kenny have I ever missed you!
Bennet dude, I feel your frustration with our western culture. I really do, but I really really think that human being are moved by issues like this regardless of how or when they hear of it. Thats the reason it's getting so much coverage now, they've perfected their campaign but we all can't be so cynical and just hate how the world works, it does just as little as clicking "share" on a video and changing your profile picture like so many are doing.
We are stuck asking ourselves what can we do? When we decide it's nothing thats when we start to pay attention to what Lady Gaga is doing.
Bennet dude, I feel your frustration with our western culture. I really do, but I really really think that human being are moved by issues like this regardless of how or when they hear of it. Thats the reason it's getting so much coverage now, they've perfected their campaign but we all can't be so cynical and just hate how the world works, it does just as little as clicking "share" on a video and changing your profile picture like so many are doing.
We are stuck asking ourselves what can we do? When we decide it's nothing thats when we start to pay attention to what Lady Gaga is doing.
charliemein
Steel Member
Kony is a christian fundamentalist who kidnaps children for sex slaves and soldiers. problem is this was mainly happening around 2003. Some charity is using this event as a money making scheme. Everyone is making statuses about stopping Kony due to a video from 2003. He's been hiding in a hole since 2006 and is having peace talks with Ugandan president.
Oh, all the neighboring countries a corrupt as fuck. I'm just saying that people shouldn't really make a big deal about it. I don't see anyone make statuses about Sudan or Rwanda.
but its a tricky subject
http://www.thatsnonsense.com/view.php?id=1516
im pretty sure the american government are highly educated elected officials who make a choice based on what is right for their country. The fact of the matter is that uganda is just a single country. I dont see any status' about sudan or rwanda. Please dont assume you know everything from one 30minute video.
Again if we look at the iraq war. America was pressured into removing a dictator sadam husan who was committing simular crimes to kony but ended up fighting an unwinable war against a civilians with guns.
but im not american so i wouldnt know haha
Oh, all the neighboring countries a corrupt as fuck. I'm just saying that people shouldn't really make a big deal about it. I don't see anyone make statuses about Sudan or Rwanda.
but its a tricky subject
http://www.thatsnonsense.com/view.php?id=1516
im pretty sure the american government are highly educated elected officials who make a choice based on what is right for their country. The fact of the matter is that uganda is just a single country. I dont see any status' about sudan or rwanda. Please dont assume you know everything from one 30minute video.
Again if we look at the iraq war. America was pressured into removing a dictator sadam husan who was committing simular crimes to kony but ended up fighting an unwinable war against a civilians with guns.
but im not american so i wouldnt know haha
Same dude. Other than that it's really moving and everything but that part was bad. Way too much innocence in a little kid like that.
Everybody seems to forget that this shit happens all the time. Rather than donate to every single cause that appears, my family I donate to organizations that prevent things from happening, like amnesty international or doctors without borders.
Also, the U.S. has done tons of stuff worse than this in the past.
Also, the U.S. has done tons of stuff worse than this in the past.
Bear Grylls
M3MB3R
This is stupid I don't see how plastering shit everywhere when the fucker is on a different continent is going to do anything
Steve Moore
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Someones probably gonna take this the wrong way and say Im ignorant, but Im fucking tired of hearing about this. Its been going on for years, but now all of a sudden, anyone who has a facebook thinks theyre an activist because they repost a fucking video...
The part that pisses me off is all these 15 and 16 year old kids on facebook that are the typical "cool kids" always trying to act hard on the internet, and now theyre using this video to show their "sensitive" side. Fuck them. Some fucking kid posts this video, gets a dickload of likes, and everyone suddenly likes them???
Stuff like this is always used for the wrong purpose. As Travis said, our life problems are nothing compared to this, but no one does a thing about it. All they do is repost a video on some retarded socail network and think theyre actually making a difference..
That is the only effect Ive seen this video have on society.
*This post is 100% observation/opinion. So calm the hell down before you even try to start something.
The part that pisses me off is all these 15 and 16 year old kids on facebook that are the typical "cool kids" always trying to act hard on the internet, and now theyre using this video to show their "sensitive" side. Fuck them. Some fucking kid posts this video, gets a dickload of likes, and everyone suddenly likes them???
Stuff like this is always used for the wrong purpose. As Travis said, our life problems are nothing compared to this, but no one does a thing about it. All they do is repost a video on some retarded socail network and think theyre actually making a difference..
That is the only effect Ive seen this video have on society.
*This post is 100% observation/opinion. So calm the hell down before you even try to start something.
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
kony isnt a problem anymore. stop donating and spamming and worry about an actual problem.
