Making your very own buff bars.

Rob.

Admin
Staff member
Things you'll need

--Drill

--Saw/something to cut with

--Money.

--5/16ths drill bit

--hands are useful too.

--Razor axles, or bolts, i suggest axles because they're hand-friendly.

--a punch
(like this)
starrett_center_punch.jpg

useful, believe me.


Alright so depending on if you're riding threaded/SCS or (like a bawse) riding HIC, you'll be buying different tubings.

I'll start with the HIC, which is what I'm running right now:
*note, with no slit, you can run these in an SCS.
But scroll down for the better SCS set up.

Tubing:
downtube
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=15340&step=4&showunits=inches&id=250&top_cat=0

Buy it in 24". That's the best amount, or if you need it higher, buy longer.
NOTE!
The buff stem its self raises your bars about an inch, so if you want 22" high buffs, cut the downtube to ~21 inches long.
I'd just order the 24" and do the measuring yourself.

Crossbar:
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=9567&step=4&showunits=inches&id=250&top_cat=0

Any of the .875" OD walls will do, but this one is pretty tough to bend, so I'd recommend this. you can get it custom cut to whatever width you want, or buy a general width and cut it yourself, it doesn't matter.

You can buy a thick aluminum crossbar as well, but barends are a bitch to put in them (or cover the ends) and its more prone to bending. Don't be a weight weenie.

ADA stem:
http://www.adaracing.com/scooter/steering-stem-boxer/bxss

Alright, time to drill and cut some more. Put the ADA stem over one end of the 1.375 tubing, it should fit snugly. Use the punch and a hammer to make a little dent in the tubing where the holes are. Drill through both holes with the 5/16ths bit. install axles with allen keys. simple enough.

once the stem is properly tightened down, grab a saw and cut roughly a 2.25" slit (smaller slit = more reliable imo) on the other side of the tubing (duh.). Take a smaller drill bit (really small, but wider than the saw cut.) and drill a hole at the top of the slit. it helps keep the slit from cracking (I think?)

done. install your HIC and you're good to go. Or keep it slitless and run an SCS.



For a lighter SCS/threaded set up, buy this downtube instead (not HIC compatible!)
http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4358&step=4&showunits=inches&id=71&top_cat=60

There's more expensive alloys, but... if you want to pay 30/foot of tubing, be my guest.

So buffs will cost you around:
~15 for crossbar
~18 for downtube
~40 for ADA stem
~30 for shipping everything (estimate***)
$103

HOWEVER. If your downtube bends, or snaps. or your bars bend down, you only replace those tubes! So instead of churning out another 80 bucks for a new set of bars, you spend ~25 bucks for a new tube!

There you go.
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Tupsu

Bronze member
Someone had the same idea here, dunno where and who. I like the idea, i think im going to search those stems from finland.
 

Mr.H

Member
Looks cool and different from all the usual made made China gear available. Nice write up too.
 

Rob.

Admin
Staff member
Second deck is a rup black label. And it's not an original idea, i'm just telling people how to do it. Its so much better to swap out a bent crossbar or bent downtube than to buy a whole new set of bars. You'll literally never need another set of bars again.


Thanks Mr. H
 

-Sal-

Bronze member
sorry for bumping this post but i am currently trying to make some BUFFs and i have a question, for Rob, or for anyone else who can seem to help me.

Is the down tube that you linked us above made of steel or aluminum? i am looking for a lighter set up than what i am currently riding and i would not want the steel bars on my scooter because it would be a good amount heavier.

Also, does the steel cross bar add a burly amount of excess weight?

Help would be greatly appreciated because i want to order the metal and start building these. thanks
 

Robert

Tr0ll
sorry for bumping this post but i am currently trying to make some BUFFs and i have a question, for Rob, or for anyone else who can seem to help me.

Is the down tube that you linked us above made of steel or aluminum? i am looking for a lighter set up than what i am currently riding and i would not want the steel bars on my scooter because it would be a good amount heavier.

Also, does the steel cross bar add a burly amount of excess weight?

Help would be greatly appreciated because i want to order the metal and start building these. thanks

What ever you do, don't use aluminum on the downtube, unless you are 90 lbs or under.

If you get an aluminum crossbar just make sure to get a really thick one.
 

-Sal-

Bronze member
why would aluminum on the down tube be an issue? its going to be oversized and I'm going to be riding it with an SCS. i used to ride with buffs back in the day and i never had a problem with the down tube breaking; unless people have had problems with them
 

Joe Riley

The Gypsy
Staff member
If you're using it in SCS, get an Aluminum downtube. The bottom link he posted. The crossbar can be anything, aluminum will work for that too but make sure it's semi-thick so it won't bend easily. Rob you don't know what you're talking about. People who rode Buffs used aluminum downtubes for years.
 

Robert

Tr0ll
If you're using it in SCS, get an Aluminum downtube. The bottom link he posted. The crossbar can be anything, aluminum will work for that too but make sure it's semi-thick so it won't bend easily. Rob you don't know what you're talking about. People who rode Buffs used aluminum downtubes for years.

Ok, my friend just snapped some torn bars riding flat.
 

Joe Riley

The Gypsy
Staff member
Ok, my friend just snapped some torn bars riding flat.

Ok? Those are Torn bars. Welds. SR made buffs with an Aluminum downtube and sold them for a longgg time and from what I know, nobody ever broke them at the downtube. Plus the only way they would is at the slit. There would be no slit since he's riding SCS. No reason to ride a chromo downtube, it's just extra weight.
 

Broccoli1

Bronze member
sorry for bumping this post but i am currently trying to make some BUFFs and i have a question, for Rob, or for anyone else who can seem to help me.

Is the down tube that you linked us above made of steel or aluminum? i am looking for a lighter set up than what i am currently riding and i would not want the steel bars on my scooter because it would be a good amount heavier.

Also, does the steel cross bar add a burly amount of excess weight?

Help would be greatly appreciated because i want to order the metal and start building these. thanks

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=4358&step=4&showunits=inches&id=71&top_cat=60

6061-t6 Aluminum tubing.

1.375" OD x 0.125" WALL x 1.125" ID 6061 T6 TUBE

Cross bar
0.875" OD x 0.12" WALL x 0.635" ID 6061 T6 TUBE

Although the crossbar may bend on you but that's it in 7/8" Tubing so you would have to go with Solid bar sock for stronger.
 
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