New Part Idea Thread
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Dom Marconi
Silver Member
Bike frames don't break nearly as fast as scooter decks due to the design. Which allows the to use very thin chromoly tubing.
Aluminum will crack and distort near stress points such as the bottom bracket, chainstays, etc.
In other words, it's only as strong as its weakest point.
Anyway, the design of a bike frame is two massive triangles, with a height of like 13 inches. It's a way more practical design. Scooters are much harder to make a strong design, since they are only one inch thick. If anyone makes a scooter deck that is 13 inches thick, from where your griptape goes to where you grind, then we will have a strong deck.
And by the way, aluminum is stronger weight for weight. So no, it wouldn't be stronger.
Dom Marconi
Silver Member
It's impractical. It's able to be extruded, but there are cheaper ways to do things like that. With steel sheet, it can be bent into shape. Some very old Razors were made with sheet metal fab.
Anyway, like I said, there is no purpose to a steel deck. Aluminum will be lighter and stronger.
Grant Schofield
Silver Member
We should arc weld our bars. I don't understand why we tig weld chromo when we could arc weld it. Arc s much easier, would take less time, and its the strongest weld too.
issac p
Silver Member
a whole titanium scooter would cost thousands. definitely not worth it.
and yeah a chromoly deck isnt a very good idea. a bike frame is nothing like a scooter deck.
Dom Marconi
Silver Member
Lol MIG, TIG, and stick are all arc welding techniques. I assume you're just talking about stick welding?
Because stick welding is stupid. It's for rough applications, where you need a quick weld, when looks don't matter. Stick welding is mainly just for making quick welds when your material is very dirty. Definitely not the kind of welds people are looking to make on scooter parts.
Not to mention, you're gonna have to clean up your flux after welding stick.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
I Have lots of new ideas and designs, recently i figured out a compression system that is universal, simple as can be, with no hard instilation that works on any fork and any standard bar. A more efficiant alternitive to SCS or ICS. look forward to it. I have the ties to get it made, protype it and begin production, so i will. im goign to either way but out of curiosity, who would like this? design would be very inexpensive aswell, like under 30$ inexpensive. dont want to realy say anythign about how it works, but compared to an average like 50-70$ scs, that is way more reliable then ICS neer the same price wouldnt it be nice to have available?
morgan_bvrns
Steel Member
So...HIC.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
no standard bars and he design has nothign to do with hic or scs as far as how it compresses the headset. once i have it made and peopel see how it works it will make sence.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
and HIC can be cnsidered hard insilation becouse you have to install the shim, using a starnut and topcap yadayada, this new compresion has no hard instilation whatsoever
morgan_bvrns
Steel Member
So...threaded.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
no? threadless forks. stop assumign i am an idiot? i know what types of compresion is already out there. Also dont be so close minded to assume that there is only like 6 types of compression systems possible. threadless forks, standad bars, simple as can be, nothign like ANY compresion system out right now. Also, i asked who would want it not who thinks its somethign its not.
morgan_bvrns
Steel Member
Dude. You can't just ask people whether they want it or not when we have no fucking idea what it is you're trying to sell us. Most people want details before they decide if they want something or not.
Grant Schofield
Silver Member
Watch it be like micheal Chavez's spring compression Idea
morgan_bvrns
Steel Member
Spring compression idea? First I've heard of this.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
am asking if people would be interested in a convenient compresion system at a very affordable price, to see if anyone would consider trying something that is nothing like HIC or SCS. it doesnt matter how it works right now, im asking who would want somethign like that.
michaelpytel
Bronze member
yes, so you see slits as a weekpoint? I know that area is a weekpoint, but thats the area not the slit, iv bent just as many bars foward in an scs as i have broke them with a slit. Thanks for input, is that why you wouldnt buy it if bars had a slit?
Dom Marconi
Silver Member
I won't buy because I don't know what it is.