so what mods/admins are left?

the_SD_local

I own SR.
Yea that's about it. i think it should be manageable with all the new admin features it makes the job a lot easier. If you find we need more help just let me know and I can have more applications but I think we should be good for the time being.
 

Matt Dibble

M3MB3R
Staff member
I'm here...but with a bitter taste in my mouth. I don't know what was said in private messages or by any other means of communication, but I really think the whole SR lurker thing is no good, and that the mods/admins that we had before were doing fine.

I realize running a business means taking your time away from SR and not being able to moderate, but that is what we were all for. Brian sent me a screenshot of all of the things SR lurker had done in just one night, and some of the threads deleted had absolutely no reason to leave. It was pretty ridiculous. I may have the power now to see what the SR lurker has deleted recently, but if I do, I don't know how to use it.

I don't like the advertising direction that SR has gone in, but I'm not completely opposed to it either. I wish it wasn't cluttering stuff up so much on the news pages, but I can't deny if I was in the seat of power that you're in, I'd probably want the advertising money as well. I'm not saying the money won't go back to good things to support the sport such as the cost of hosting the website, or R&D for proto... but I don't think you're a complete stranger to alcohol or weed either. No one is perfect.

Overall, I really do like the website. I view POTW/COTW mostly as an inconvenience now, especially since I'm in college and have a lot more work load than I did previously. Sorry Andrew, I know "college is no excuse" for filming, so you probably think the same way about POTW/COTW. Other than those things, my SR ritual is usually just to try to catch up on what I can as quickly as possible, and get offline. I don't spend the time on here I used to and that is just because of the member makeup that is here now.

As much as I seem to be proving otherwise, I'm not typing up this post to be an asshole. I just want to say exactly what I'm thinking, because I have no strong ties to Andrew or proto. Yes, the team is obligated to stay and be on your side with everything, and yes Nooner lives really close to you and wants to help the website. As for everyone else, I think they feel just about the same I do. Bitter taste in mouth. The only difference between myself and them is that if I step down, you not only lose a moderator... but part of the content for the site as well. And I'm just not ready to quit yet.
 

the_SD_local

I own SR.
Sorry for the late response. Telling you I have been busy just doesn't do it justice right now. I have been consistently working anywhere from 12-20 hours a day right now with the Christmas rush, getting the new site setup, getting my comp series and AFSA squared away for next year, organizing everything for SD4 and a few other things I'm working in the sport.

Once I realized how busy things were going to be for me through the holidays I created the SR Lurker account and gave it admin privileges for Twan and Luis to use in my place if I am out working in the shop with a welding mask on and no access to SR or anything for that matter... which is most of my time. If I am going to spend thousands of dollars upgrading the site (which I did) I want to know what is happening on it throughout the day... not once a week or whenever I find time to login which I hardly have time for. I need to be able to walk 20 feet away from my welder to my office and talk to a real person in real time about what is going on, how they should moderate/administrate things then go back to work, which is not something any moderator can provide me... unless you want to move to So Cal and work in the shop or call me every hour with updates. I really appreciated all the help from the moderators but there are certain things on the site that only Brian and myself (administrators) had the power to do which is why that account was given administrative powers. In retrospect, administrative powers and Twan don't mix. I gave him permission to lurk and moderate but I had no idea the extent of what he was experimenting with until Brian posted the log. The lurker account was active for less than 24 hours and I deleted it after I saw the commotion it caused. I am pretty bummed to lose some of those moderators especially the ones who took their positions seriously and helped shape this community, for the sake of the community. I think there were also others who were a little too quick to jump on the resignation bandwagon but then again I didn't really give anyone a very good explanation as to what was going on aside from Brian. I probably owe a few people an official explanation as to what went down because I'm sure they feel like I kicked them out in the cold which was not my intentions... I just didn't have time to sit and argue with people on the internet. I am on a mission right now to push the sport as a whole to a new level of mainstream acceptance where top riders and other people who help in the industry can actually make a living doing what they love. My level of persistence, determination and dedication to this cause I believe is unparalleled by anyone else in the sport and I believe that what happens on SR is key to promoting the sport to that level so anything that gets in my way or people who do not agree with the way I do things, there are no hard feelings, I understand that not everyone agrees with the way I do things but I do not have time to sit and negotiate.

As for advertising money... I don't want it, I need it because this site has become so expensive to run and I don't think it is exactly fair that I pay out of pocket when practically every other scooter company in the world has used this community to make money and create reputations for themselves. I think ads are tacky and disgusting... I wish I could keep SR ad free but at the same time I have to think it is going to help other legitimate scooter companies get exposure. As for drinking and smoking... you were at my house last new years when I made my resolution not to do either so I could focus on my business and the sport throughout 2009... I still have 13 days left.

As for my team members who also happen to be moderators, the only obligation they have to me is to provide me with footage for our video. I have actually told them that I would prefer to not have them as moderators and would rather have them out riding and filming rather than sitting on a forum but that is a decision I leave completely up to them. SR and PROTO are two totally different things so if they do not like the way SR is running they are free to leave at any time. PROTO is a different story. If they still support me then it is because they believe in what I am trying to accomplish and not because I am forcing them.

As for POTW/COTW those are probably two of the best regularly updated features on the site which I give you much props, respect and thanks for taking on that responsibility. If you see it as an inconvenience now you have no obligations to continue doing them what so ever but I want to let you know that I do appreciate the fact that you dedicate so much time to doing it. If you still want to continue doing it I will be meeting with my web guy hopefully within the next few days to figure out how to get other people logged into the WordPress section of the site to start getting it updated on the regular. I was supposed to meet with him on Monday and then Wednesday both of which I had to cancel because I have been just a little preoccupied like I said earlier. We are finally catching back up so I should be available to meet with him by Monday and I will let you know.
 

Matt Dibble

M3MB3R
Staff member
Andrew, thank you for taking the time to explain what was happening with the SR lurker, I do really appreciate it.

As for drinking and smoking, I'm going off only what Dylan said at my house this July. He said when at your house all you and Elmer did was smoke instead of wanting to ride. I realize Dylan will complain a lot, but that doesn't change my outlook on him as a rider. He does that well. I'm not going to say you or him are lying, I just don't want to really get into it. I don't know, and will never know if you kept that new year's promise. It shouldn't matter to me and it doesn't, and what I said in the previous post was supposed to get a reaction from you, and was not so much relevant to what we were talking about, and I do apologize for that.

As for POTW/COTW, I seem to complain about this more than necessary, but I don't feel like I have enough free time to spend on the computer anymore to make it what it should be. I have no problem trying to set up with someone else to help fill that void, and to forward different stuff directly to them. I want to try to phase out my use of the srpotw@gmail.com address, but right now it's my primary e-mail, and my college as well as other important contacts only have that e-mail... so I need to change that. For POTW right now, I think it would be best if it was scooterresourcepotw@gmail.com or something. I will forward all e-mails i get for POTW to that e-mail, and let the sender know that SRPOTW@gmail.com is no longer the e-mail address for it. I know POTW/COTW isn't the most pivotal thing in the world, but if I was ever a single day late with it, kids would start to flip shit. It definitely deserves someone who can dedicate more time to it than I.

As far as moderating, I would like to stick around. I feel like you made me an admin because you felt I could do a good job on here, and I still feel like I can help to an extent, but with the direction that the users have gone i feel like i have less and less patience with some people. I do still feel like I have a role in the community, but not as strong as I once had. If you choose to de-mod me because of POTW or any other reason, I wouldn't blame you. I am not on here as much as I used to be and I realize that.

I don't want to drag this on forever, but I do really appreciate all what it seems you're doing for the sport, and being a part of it. Happy birthday in a few days too... you christmas baby you.
 
Sorry guys, I haven't come in here in about a week.

I'm staying, although I'm not sure what I'm able to do. I still don't think I can ban or warn people, right? Which is kind of shitty when I've seen a lot of kids I've wanted to at least warn lately.
 
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