SR COMPETITION FORMAT

[the_SD_local]

For those of you who are going to the SD comp I want suggestions on how you want the comp to be run:

STANDARD COMPS:

- Jam or Solo
- Length of runs
- Number of runs
- Qualifying
- LCQ (last chance qualifier)
- Classes? (beginner, intermediate, advanced) or (16 and under, 16 and over, pro) or (am and pro)
- judges
- judging criteria (style, consistency, originality, etc.?)
- scoring
- etc.

BEST TRICK:

- judging?
- scoring?
- classes?
- runs or attempts?
- time limit?



If I don't get a good response I am just going to set it up myself so please give some input.

Even if you aren't going to the comp I'd like to hear your suggestions about competition formats in general.

Thanks.

EDIT: Added judging and scoring stuff.

 

[whoopa]

- Jam or Solo - solo
- Length of runs- 2 minutes to 3
- Number of runs- 3 or at least 2
- Qualifying- i dont know
- LCQ- ???
- Classes- pro, intermidiate, beginner


sorry its the best i could do

 

[Matt Dibble]

- Solo
+ judges dont have to try to watch and critique more than one rider at a time.
+ rider has an oppurtunity to watch the person who they might've had a run with, and not gotten to watch
- more nervousness for the rider.

- 1:00 worked alright at the XW comp, but i think anywhere from 1:30 to 2:00 would work best

- 3 Runs per rider worked best, I think after those three runs the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in each class should have an additional run for fun.

- Depending on the turnout, I don't think qualifying to "finals" is really necessary. At XW we just basically had 3 runs and the average of the top 2 scores determined your place.

- LCQ? I'm stupid maybe? haha.... I dont know what that is.

- Probably will have a larger turnout than we did at XW so beginner, intermediate, advanced sounds way better to me than am and pro. Pro makes it seem like you have to be on razor or micro to enter that division. Advanced just makes it seem as if you are better than average.

- Are you even considering having a best trick contest? nothing was mentioned about it in your post. If you do than I think it should be each rider gets 3 attempts at their best trick, if they land it first try, they still have 2 attempts left to try to throw something bigger if they want, or just be happy with what they did. Rider's Choice.



I will not be attending this competition but I hope all goes well for you guys down in San Diego!

 

[whoopa]

damn we deff need a best trick andrew

 

[Kenny O.]

Id actually prefer Jam, less pressure on each rider to me.
Length - 2ish minutes?
Number of runs - ehh 3
classes - DEFINETLY beginner, intermediate, advanced...no question about that.

 

[ojfross]

i think that solo would work best because then u get to see who can preform under the presure and u can critique harde and i also think beginer intermediat and advanced would work good

 

[Cary Mosbrucker]

Id actually prefer Jam, less pressure on each rider to me.
Length - 2ish minutes?
Number of runs - ehh 3
classes - DEFINETLY beginner, intermediate, advanced...no question about that.

trust me kenny that what every one thinks there 1st time.. BUT NOO AFTER THAT SKREW JAM ITS GAY!

 

[Madis]

Not attending to it...




STANDARD COMPS:

- Jam or Solo
Solo

- Length of runs
1 min to 2 min, depends how many riders there are and i believe anything over 2 min (or even 1:30) is going to be exhausting.

- Number of runs
2 + last trick.

- Qualifying
semifinals and finals. Or just finals.

- LCQ (last chance qualifier)
How would that affect the number of runs he/they have?

- Classes? (beginner, intermediate, advanced) or (16 and under, 16 and over, pro) or (am and pro)
All together, because i've seen better riders in amateur class than some people in pro class. Same goes to age too.

- judges
They have to be modestly neutral and they must know about the scene a little. I don't know who could be the judges though, some ex-riders?

- judging criteria (style, consistency, originality, etc.?)
Style 15% of the whole score
Consistency 30%
Amplitude 15%
Originality 20%
Tricks difficultys 20% (includes landing cleanness)

- scoring
in 10-ball scale (full integers only) on each criteria, each criteria is multiplyed with the criteria percentage and all 5 criterias are summarized together.

- etc.
Don't end up the runs exactly by the clock and say "oh sorry your time's up, get lost", let the rider do/attempt his last trick, over time.



BEST TRICK:

- judging?
Style 20% of the whole score
Consistency 0% (there's no run)
Amplitude 20%
Originality 40% (originality doesn't depend on the trick, it depends of the spot/gap/tranfer too that someone else might haven't used it or found it).
Tricks difficultys 20% (includes landing cleanness)

- scoring?
Same as percentage-multiplying-summarizing as in standard comp.

- classes?
No class generally.
Or, TECH and SINGLE TRICK (going for a big gap for example) classes.

- runs or attempts?
Solo attempts. Taking turns. That way the audience and judges can observe everyone separately.

- time limit?
No.

 

[Kenny O.]

If you want, i can help judge best trick, Or pro.

 

[Shelby Grimnes]

stanard comp-
jam sess 10 mins
then pick the top 10
then have a solo sess 2 min long 1 round
the pick a top 5 have a 2 min long run

to pick the winner

 

[Dustin Nooner]

For those of you who are going to the SD comp I want suggestions on how you want the comp to be run:

STANDARD COMPS:

- Jam or Solo
- Length of runs
- Number of runs
- Qualifying
- LCQ (last chance qualifier)
- Classes? (beginner, intermediate, advanced) or (16 and under, 16 and over, pro) or (am and pro)
- judges
- judging criteria (style, consistency, originality, etc.?)
- scoring
- etc.

BEST TRICK:

- judging?
- scoring?
- classes?
- runs or attempts?
- time limit?



If I don't get a good response I am just going to set it up myself so please give some input.

Even if you aren't going to the comp I'd like to hear your suggestions about competition formats in general.

Thanks.

EDIT: Added judging and scoring stuff.

Andrew Im pretty sure that I alreaddy had this worked out..Why dont you just ask me?

I got the judges
runs and lengths.
I go tit all dont worry.

 

[whoopa]

yeah cary knows whats up.

the reason i dont want it to be jam format is because i was not even seen for the first half of my run a TZ comp and that was the best part of my run

i think atleat pro should be solo

 

[Jordan Jasa]

Solo
90 seconds
2 runs top 5 advance to finals
LCQ For anyone not in the finals, 1 last run: Top 2 advance
Finals Best Score of 2 runs
beginner, intermediate, advanced
judging: ex-riders, people educated on the sport
criteria: Style 20%, Consistency 20%, Amplitude 20%, Originality 20%, Trick Difficulty 20%
do what Madis says for computing the scores
etc: For a Tie Breaker in each round the highest avg. goes on.

Best Trick:
Style 30%, Difficulty 30%, Amplitude 20%, Originality 20%
again, do what Madis says for computing
Jam format, up to 30 minutes
Beginner, Intermediate, advanced

 

[the_SD_local]

For those of you who are going to the SD comp I want suggestions on how you want the comp to be run:

STANDARD COMPS:

- Jam or Solo
- Length of runs
- Number of runs
- Qualifying
- LCQ (last chance qualifier)
- Classes? (beginner, intermediate, advanced) or (16 and under, 16 and over, pro) or (am and pro)
- judges
- judging criteria (style, consistency, originality, etc.?)
- scoring
- etc.

BEST TRICK:

- judging?
- scoring?
- classes?
- runs or attempts?
- time limit?



If I don't get a good response I am just going to set it up myself so please give some input.

Even if you aren't going to the comp I'd like to hear your suggestions about competition formats in general.

Thanks.

EDIT: Added judging and scoring stuff.

Andrew Im pretty sure that I alreaddy had this worked out..Why dont you just ask me?

I got the judges
runs and lengths.
I go tit all dont worry.

I am asking you and everyone else right now. I already know you have the date and times set up but you have nothing posted about judges, judging criteria, scoring, how many runs people get, best trick, best trick judging, plus most people don't like jam sessions and 3 minute runs is way way too long. This stuff has to be posted where people can find it easily and it needs to be posted ASAP because the comp is less than 3 weeks away. Once I get all the info I will post a News bulletin and it will be set in stone.

Also, I am doing this because Laszlo asked me to because when I asked him about the comp he had no idea how it was going to go down so he wants to know ASAP with comp fliers he can hand out. Also, it is probably going to be more than $10 to enter especially for pro (advanced) class.

 

[Matt Dibble]

lol Nooner... thats not what you said on the phone the other day (about the comp being all worked out)


But I hope what I said earlier helps out, If Chris or Brian hasn't posted yet, they should post with experience from the TIC comp.. and like Cary and them should post with experience from TZ comp.. I hope you guys have the best comp and i tried to help! <3

 

[the_SD_local]

Also, I am not trying to make this format for JUST the SD comp... I want to create a standard format for all of you guys to use when you have comps so they all run the same which is why I'm asking for everyones input.

EDIT: This is what I've come up with so far after talking to Nooner and adding a few things on my own, Obviously the date and times would be different for other comps...



Park: KRAUSE FAMILY SKATE/BIKE PARK Clairemont ( http://www.ymca.org/missionvalley/english/index_youth_skatepark.html )

Date: December 30, 2006 (December 31 if the 30 gets rained out so don't plan on leaving until Sunday night just in case!!!)

Registration/Warm-up: 9-10AM

Classes/Fees: (beginner/$15, intermediate$20, advanced$25)

Runs: 90 second long SOLO runs, no jam format.

Run 1: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) 10-11:30AM

Run 2: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) 11:30-1PM

Run 3: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) 1-2:30PM

Judging:

- 3 judges
- 100 possible points per judge per run (300 total per run divided by 3 gives you something under 100 per run)
- Judged based on (Style 20%, Consistency 20%, Amplitude 20%, Originality 20%, Trick Difficulty 20%)
- Lowest scoring run gets dropped (best 2 out of 3)

BEST TRICK: Open to anyone, 5 attempts (best trick counts) judged (Style 25%, Amplitude 25%, Originality 25%, Trick Difficulty 25%)

Beginner/Intermediate Prizes: 1st-3rd place, prize packages, scooters

Advanced Prizes: 1st-3rd place, prize packages, scooters, CASH (half the pro entry split between top 3)

Best Trick Prize: Something cool, maybe money?

Sponsors: Razor Scooters, Fuzion Scooters(hopefully), ScooterResource.com

 

[whoopa]

dank that all looks really dank now i need to hop on a godamn greyhound somehow from santa cruz to san diego then we need to find nooners or a hotel cause its gonna be me, steven t, sean t, and maybe aj

 

[Cary Mosbrucker]

no boog?

 

[Dustin Nooner]

Dank. I guess this will ahve to work Andrew! lol jk but yea Jonny. If worse comes to worst for to many ppl at my hosue your sleeping on the floor. Hit me up Jonny, we need tot alk about it and stuff.

 

[Kenny O.]

Yayy, im glad were doing the beg. intermediate. and pro, sections that will work much better