Theory about sealed headsets on scooters

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Dylan Kasson

Steel Member
My chris king has been giving me problems ever since I put it on. In the bearings you can hardly move them around with your finger. I was thinking about it and came up with this conclusion. Sealed headsets cannot be used to their full potential on a scooter, at least ones with as high quality as the chris king. You need more weight (bike) to maximize the potential of it a scooter is just to light and the only way to get it going fast is to have it really loose and it jiggles back and forth. So I go and put a stock cup on the bottom and what do you know? You can tighten it down as hard as you can and it still moves amazingly, so that is why I think sealed headset bearings should be only on the top and unsealed on the bottom. It seems if you tighten down a unsealed top bearing the bearings dont spin good so the best combo is sealed top cup unsealed bottom. Just a random little thing may be dumb but whatever.....just think about it.
 
Madis

Madis

Super Geek
Staff member
Doesn't make sense really. I've worn in both of my deep-stacked FSAs which i got in February and has sealed bearings. Now that i had to move them from micro neck to a razor neck, then i had tried to spin the bearings in hand. It was so much easier than it was in the beginning which means i've worn them in pretty nicely. It's all solid and spinning like hell.
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
I'm thinking about doing this with my FSA, or switching back to stock headset. My FSA has given me problems since i put it on, it doesn't even spin correctly and the cups are pressed in all the way evenly.
 
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Dylan Kasson

Steel Member
Madis said:
Doesn't make sense really. I've worn in both of my deep-stacked FSAs which i got in February and has sealed bearings. Now that i had to move them from micro neck to a razor neck, then i had tried to spin the bearings in hand. It was so much easier than it was in the beginning which means i've worn them in pretty nicely. It's all solid and spinning like hell.
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yea but im talking about a chris king.......maybe it takes alot longer to wear in because its supposed to be good for 10 years
 
Madis

Madis

Super Geek
Staff member
ha yea, maybe. Just do lots of whips everyday and see what will happen in a few weeks/months.
 
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gorrilaman

Member
How do you fit a Chris King? I mean is it different than a FSA Pig? Or it is simply 2 metal cups in one piece ( since it is sealed ) and you knock it in?

You probably know but for some people who don't , if you hammer your cups in and they are not parallel with each other ( top and bottom ) , your headset won't spin smoothly. To check if it is parallel , spin your bars and if it comes to a sudden( sudden) complete stop at the certain point then it is not paralleled. Hope you know what I mean.
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
24Seven said:
How do you fit a Chris King? I mean is it different than a FSA Pig? Or it is simply 2 metal cups in one piece ( since it is sealed ) and you knock it in?

You probably know but for some people who don't , if you hammer your cups in and they are not parallel with each other ( top and bottom ) , your headset won't spin smoothly. To check if it is parallel , spin your bars and if it comes to a sudden( sudden) complete stop at the certain point then it is not paralleled. Hope you know what I mean.
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Yeah, all headsets are the same basically.

And thats how my headset it, one point drags. I pressed my cups in with vice grips. Im pretty sure its even, i've tried to even it out plenty of times. I just gave up on it though and i ride it anyway. As long as im putting normal power into whips its fine. Barspins are a little slower but i deal.
 
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lloyd

Steel Member
my top fsa bearing was poo. its got all torn and croked and all the balls fell out. I put a stock headset bearing in and now it spin like it had never spinned before.
 
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blanket687

Bronze member
i am going to try replacing my bottom cup for my fsa sealed because they do spin pretty slow.
I am way too dumb to have even come up with that
 
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blanket687

Bronze member
Tyler Chambers! said:
Jeffrey Kozicki said:
i have seen Tyler's chode
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Anyway
i just tried to take the bottom fsa sealed headset out of the fsa bottom cup and it wouldnt come out.
Can it actually be done without breaking it?

Nevermind, the bottom headset wouldnt fit in a stock cup anyway.
 
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steven

Member
u have the threadless headset
u need the convertion
kit and it good
cuz
jon had the same problem
then
got the threaded nut and it was fine
spins nice
 
Hep Greg

Hep Greg

Administrator
i have a $20 threadless sealed headset on a stock fork. it works amazingly. ive never had problems with it.
 
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Steezeman

Administrator
I want to get a sealed headset just because it's so much easier than an unsealed one. I know Nooner has one and it does have more resistance on whips/bars than an unsealed headset, but my deck is heavier than his and I have 20 wides with bar ends and he doesn't. And I don't do whips and barely do bars so it's all good.

I'll buy your King if it's giving you too many problems Dylan :)
 
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Australiano

Member
do you guys ever have problems with tightening your headset so it doenst shake, then you wont be able to move the bars easy? what should you do if that happens. i'm riding a stock, dont want to upgrade until i get better and i wanted to know. i took the top cover off of it and that did nothign really. thanks
 
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