TSI or Phoenix?
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michaelchavez
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tsi ftw, they dont charge 70 extra dollars for the same deck just integrated, theyre hella strong, way cheaper, can change deckplates, usually not meant for weight freaks
Vaughn.H
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so?? the regular tsi already comes with a flex fender. and for 20$ more you get it integraded <3333333
so 210$ phoenix << fail
180$ tsi win
BladeBaker.
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I really like this thread, everyone has super solid arguments, and rebuttals!
I was just about to search the same question, but then i saw this, and now i have a different perspective haha
I was just about to search the same question, but then i saw this, and now i have a different perspective haha
Nate Rita.
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Yeah, the old ones did break. So what? However, let me remind you how many tries it to TSI to finally come out with a deck that didn't break. JS.
No actually it's not at all. That's Districts area.
I'm trying to understand how Phoenix fails. You pay 30 dollars more for a deck that has professional engineering behind in it, comes in colors, and overall looks better.
BladeBaker.
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Why couldn't phoenix do the same?
So you're saying the phoenix is Heavy, so anyone that's a weight freak, go buy district?
TSI doesn't have "professional engineering"?
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Phoenix:Colors<Tsi:Head tube angles, 3 deck sizes.
Vaughn.H
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In your opinion it looks better and the Tsi comes raw because thats what we believe the sport is as of now. It comes freshly sanded and ready to paint if you wish, tsi has more professional engineering in it than phoenix has in one drop out. matt thom the man behind the mask has over ten years welding experience ,not to mention he created the FIRST ONE PIECE DECK! and has improved upon it since it came out. ever since day 1 we have strived for the best even if we didn't have the money to. you wanna know how much money matt used to start tsi?
200$ thats it, he sold all of his prized possessions so that kids like us could ride without worrying about breaking parts. And plus we spend time making the decks by hand, we stamp, sink, counter sink, sand, press the pop nuts in, resand, polish, and package. what does tom floyd do? asks an engineer to do it for him. there is no Heart! We still to this day try new things with the deck to see what is best for the riders. thats what we are riders making products for riders. and untill TOM FLOYD hops on one of his scooters and shreds the park THEN HE CAN SUCK MY DICK!!!!
Nate Rita.
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Why couldn't phoenix do the same?
So you're saying the phoenix is Heavy, so anyone that's a weight freak, go buy district?
TSI doesn't have "professional engineering"?
And,
Phoenix:Colors<Tsi:Head tube angles, 3 deck sizes.
1: Phoenix has no need too because so far the V2s have not broken to my knowledge.
2: I don't recall ever saying Phoenix was heavy. I did say that it isn't for weight freaks and yes weight freaks should buy a district. It's light as fuck if you haven't noticed.
3: No TSI does not have "Professional Engineering".
4: Yes, TSI does have different headtube angles which can accommodate different riders but, last time I checked Phoenix decks come in 3 different sizes too.
scootman071
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tsi
Nate Rita.
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1: Sorry to inform you but, TSI has no professional engineering in the design at all. I was with them BEFORE YOU. I've known them LONGER THAN YOU. I KNOW what i'm talking about.
2: Tom has no need to counter sink and do all that other stuff simply because we have no components that need that type of labor.
3: Tom rides bikes. He broke his collar bone recently. Soooooo i'm pretty positive Tom shreds the gnar.
I will say though TSI has come a long way and there decks are much stronger than past models.
MitchellHamilton
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Vaugn.. Phoenix is for weight freaks?! PATHETIC DUDE. Tsi's are hella light to. (In my opinion at least) Both decks are good. But in MY choice I would go with Phoenix, to me the headtube angle is best, nicest looking, SMOOTH ASS BOTTOM FOR GRINDS, nicest looking, And like rob said, you dont have to use a flexy.
EDIT! And Vaugn! Remember how the first TSI's we're weak? Just like the first Phoenix's!! And I kind of just lost all respect for you dude.
EDIT! And Vaugn! Remember how the first TSI's we're weak? Just like the first Phoenix's!! And I kind of just lost all respect for you dude.
Nate Rita.
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Same here.
Nate Rita.
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Dude, your rebuttals are ridiculous. "Phoenix copied TSI", are you serious? Yes TSI was the first to come out with the flexfender, but they were also the first one piece deck. So in what other way did Phoenix copy TSI? Phoenix's deck, headtube, fork, and bar design are completely different. They bare no resemblance. And i'm curious to see "what is about to happen."
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