Woodward Camp... ugh.

Rob.

Rob.

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WELP. i signed up last year before i quit inlining, and i went last week..
so, i decided to ask maverick (a "big wig" at woodward camp, pa.) about why they don't let scooters into woodward camp, LO AND BEHOLD, the same ol' crap.

Insurance reasons (YEAH, not like the bikers aren't destroying ramps/going big, right mav?)

They aren't aggressive enough (Yeah, double backflip no hander is an everyday trick in the other sports, right mav?)

Not enough cabins (YEP, i was there along with 18 inliners, OUT OF 875 KIDS, 18 were inlining)

It would make bikers and skateboarders unhappy, and we'd have to stock parts (Well, we could bring our own spare parts and stuff (murphy would be screwed unless he brought a truckload of scooters lawl.) it's not like razors cost that much, and who cares? skateboarders don't like inlines, and they still go.)
tl;dr
we talked.
he said scootering is weak and people don't like us.
insurance bull crap.

Bawwwwwwwwwww.

EDIT: i forgot to add, the owner of woodward doesn't like scooters. or so maverick said.
 
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me1

Member
You should have responded to all the reasons with your responses. I would go for sure, and I don't understand about the insurance. Technically, Razor scooters are collapsible skateboards I'm pretty sure, isn't that the argument that was used for Diamond Bar?
 
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AX3D

Member
ok listen, first before you deal with these people as strange as it sounds you have to know something about psycoligy


they are not intrested in what YOU want, they are intrested in what THEY want.

they do not want to hear how good YOU are but what great job they are doing

and things liek that


so instead of saying

'oi were mean sweet at scotoers, i wana ride there'
they really dont care.


they want to hear

'hello,

i am jonny and i have been riding scooters for 27 years of my life.

i would like to begin by telling you how much of an amazing skatepark you have built, i am truely greatful for what you are doing for BMXers, skaters, inliners and the like. i think its birlliant.

however, i would like to tell you about the profit you are able to make off scooters. there are more scooter riders in the US than roller bladers at this current time.

I would also like to get rid of the common myth that insurance does not cover them as they are patiented as a collabsable skateboard.

They also do NOT destory ramps, and if you are worried about that it will comfort you to know that scooters can have grind rails on them to stop the destuction of the ramps"


there, you just wrote a badass letter that they will take intrest in. odviusly it needs more points. you need to quote some statistics (go to your US cencius (idk what you call it, the big survey thing they do for statistics) and get some scooter riding statistics from there)


just back up your sh-t and put yourself in their position.



also, a fax is a lot more legit then an e-mail.

be legit. intrest them. and yee
 
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AX3D

Member
oh and you could also say that there is a skate shop here that caters snowboarding holidays, skateboards and inline and they make %40 profit from scooters. if you want more statistics that is.


also pentions arent gonna do sh-t, thats telling them what you wwant, not what they want (UNLESS you have people signing that they would go to woodward and that they are gonna make $$ off that sh-tt).

and also do not get angry at them, because they are going to think their pride is at risk, take a negative view to you and that negative view will reflect on every scooter rider that wants to go there.
if you have already sworn at them, its probably a good idea to go and apoligise (just saying becuse you seem preetty angry lol)

"EDIT: i forgot to add, the owner of woodward doesn't like scooters. or so maverick said. "

call him, tell him thats his loss. scooters can make large profits.
remind him that skateboards started off exactly the same, as a kids toy. tell him it is foolish to massivly reduce his profits just because he has a bad attitude towrads this sport.

"Not enough cabins (YEP, i was there along with 18 inliners, OUT OF 875 KIDS, 18 were inlining)"

well then he is using excuses. dont deal with that problem. jhust ignore it.

"They aren't aggressive enough (Yeah, double backflip no hander is an everyday trick in the other sports, right mav?)"

youtube link to coedie.

"It would make bikers and skateboarders unhappy, and we'd have to stock parts "

too bad, skates hate bikers && inliners.

scoters do not get in the way, they simply hate the little kids as it is an easy sport to pick up.






now, you can tell him that BUT make sure your talking in the INTREST OF HIM the entire time. people simply do not give two sh-ts about what you want, he wants to make cash and get more people in. talk in what he wants, not what you want k?.


free adivce, normally costs $56/hr.
 
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AX3D

Member
its called "how to win friends and influence people"


not joking, lol. its a good book haha. sounds like something about self-help or for loners but its seiously got some good sh-t in there, my dad got me to read it and i was pretty bummed about having to read it, but im gonna read it for the 3rd time, its seirously pretty smart the stuff in there,
 
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nick12667

Member
derek, this is the first thread ive seen that youve posted in that you actually make sense and now what your saying hahaha. put yeah basically just do what he said. they are a business. they want money, and to them, having a bunch of scooter kids around might make people not want to go there anymore.

by all means go and try. be as persistant and proffesional as you can. and remember, there not people, there a business
 
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P4RK3R

Member
the same thing happened to me when i went to Eisenbergs skatepark, the only skatepark in dallas.

they did the whole insurance crap, so i just lied to them about needing to film for a fusion video, and they let me in for 3 hours :)
 
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lloyd

Steel Member
emu. said:
its called "how to win friends and influence people"


not joking, lol. its a good book haha. sounds like something about self-help or for loners but its seiously got some good sh-t in there, my dad got me to read it and i was pretty bummed about having to read it, but im gonna read it for the 3rd time, its seirously pretty smart the stuff in there,
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haha didnt know somebody else had that book :D just read a couple of chapters its pretty nice
 
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AX3D

Member
read the whole thingg bbro, first chapters are lamecore the book gets real good after a bit =)
seripously, use the get someone to talk about themselves thing.. one girl would not shut the living fu-k up when i used it hahaha


Nick Granger said:
derek, this is the first thread ive seen that youve posted in that you actually make sense and now what your saying hahaha.
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hahaha, thx. what happens when i actually try to make sence/try to be nice/helpful lol
 
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AX3D

Member
apparntly it is true. just from what i heard from other people, maybe it differs in diff conrties tho
 
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tanner markley

Member
Brian Murphy said:
ahha wait till i leave work cuz i will get fired if i type wat i wanna say
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o ok please dont type it in brian murphy typing
english plz
haha

btw ur lucky you can go on SR at work i cant do shit at hollister
 
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tanner markley

Member
your a scooter rider people dont like you until you amaze them
get over it


tanner markley said:
Brian Murphy said:
ahha wait till i leave work cuz i will get fired if i type wat i wanna say
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o ok please dont type it in brian murphy typing
english plz
haha

btw ur lucky you can go on SR at work i cant do shit at hollister
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dezbert

dezbert

Steel Member
yea im also pissed they don't let scooterers go there. i really really want to go with my friend there but they're gay so we can't.how sick would it be if they let scooterers in .its an insane park. too bad peole don't understand.one day scootering will really catch on,
if it hasn't already
 
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BradAyres

Member
Who cares it's true scootering has like no respect compared to BMX and Skateboards but we just have to wait until scootering really starts to get recognized. It will just take time and more Dem's like at the Au X games last year
 
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Racer52

Member
imagine a scooter rolling in to the x games mega ramp, doing like seven tailwhips over the gap then doing a 1080 on the quarter pipe. HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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