Bar/Deck doesn't spin with headset on

flamingo

Member
I just bought a Prodigy 2016 (IHC compression) and when putting it together with the headset, the bars stop spinning and the deck stops spinning like 1/3 of the way. But when I remove the headset it spins freely, all with the same tightness of compression screw.

I even bought a a tilt headset and it does the same thing. This causes the bar and fork to move back and forth because there is no headset.

What am I doing wrong?

Could my shim/fork be broken? I had to sand paint off the shim because I was unable to remove the bars or even put them on easily.
 

James Hoffmann

Bronze member
But when I remove the headset it spins freely, all with the same tightness of compression screw.
Not sure how it'll even work without a headset, the fork wouldn't stay lined up in the head tube. I believe you have some terminology wrong so I am not quite understanding the situation.
 

thealexbuffery

Gold Member
could you take photos? (if they help)

if anything the headset cap may be touching the deck which causes it to stop, but since you have IHC and slide the cap over the shim im not sure if it's the problem
make sure you havent misplaced the compression rings or anything though cause thats common
 

flamingo

Member
I can't post links, but I put it together exactly like in this video on youtube.
SkatePro - How To Install IHC Compression

I put it together exactly like in this video, but the problem still occurs. I have all the pieces exactly like the video as well. I didn't tighten the compression bolt until the shim and headset cap were installed. The slanted side of the shim also pointed up. And the small O washer right under the bolt head on top of the compression cap is there as well.

The headset cap slides all the way to the bottom yes? How would the headset cap not touch the deck?

In the video at 58 seconds, is the headset cap ONLY resting on the bearing that goes inside the fork?
 
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flamingo

Member
So I finally fixed it after more careful examination. Inside the envy headset, there is a rubber O ring. That O ring is what rubs against the deck.

That wasn't the problem, but that was my problem in the beginning.

I broke an envy bearing, the orange one and ordered a tilt headset. So I put the brand new tilt bearings on the top and bottom of the fork, but the compression clamp that came with the tilt headset was too loose around my fork, so I just used the envy compression clamp, and this is where the problem lied. The height of the envy compression clamp inside the tilt bearing was way too low for any headset, therefore making the headset rub against the deck no matter how loose or tight I made the compression bolt. So what I did was use an original envy bearing with the envy compression clamp and this solved the problem. It was significantly higher and allowed space between the headset cap and the deck allowing it to spin freely.

So if anyone else has this problem with envy headsets, remove the rubber O ring under it and/or check the headset clearance.
 
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