They are both great decks and work differently for different riders, me personally the Ethic is the best deck I have ever rode ( haven't rode a Thresh except for Josh Moore's ) I like a light deck and I dig the look of the Ethic, I have no problem at all grinding on my Ethic, ledges, rails, benches whatever I can still grind it, that's all I really do is grind and the Ethic is damn good for overcrooks I can lock for ages