good point, either you should get atleast 30 back because these bars arn't worth 50, i made homade bars just as good as rads for 20 dollars. people say oh there rads, rads don't mean shit, a welds a weld there all the same enless made bad, just because there made buy these guys doesn't mean there any better enless they have magical powers that make them lighter, which that is total bullshit.