Brian Boston
I got myself banned.
Haters
Fuzion Scooters
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(Pete Pachota
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Steven_T said:
You all forget that it's a commercial product, they don't care if you gonna use it for two weeks or two years if you buy it.
Fuzion
Member
You guys sure are making this selection process difficult. I'm not going to point out anyone in specific but please be aware that these forums are checked regularly and it does not help for some of you to be so blindly close minded while at the same time, emailing me to ask to be put on the team. As I've mentioned before we appreciate all the positive AND negative feedback, but we aren't looking for riders who just want a free handout.
I've chosen this forum specifically because of the scootering interest and what I perceived as a general openness to new related products. Apparently there are quite a handful of you that are just as hardheaded and "rebellious" as the majority of any other chosen board sport with international notoriety. It really is surprising how the forums are so split over our product is considering it seems as if we're all pushing toward the same goal.
On a tangent, I'd just like to address the issue of competitions. Down the road we do actually plan to sponsor competitions as well as riding sessions for Fuzion/Quadcarver products. But that is all dependent on some of your abilities to push the misconceptions of the Asphalt and scooters in general, to show the public that "extreme" riding can be done and that we are just as capable as any other board sport on TV. Movements do not happen overnight.
I've chosen this forum specifically because of the scootering interest and what I perceived as a general openness to new related products. Apparently there are quite a handful of you that are just as hardheaded and "rebellious" as the majority of any other chosen board sport with international notoriety. It really is surprising how the forums are so split over our product is considering it seems as if we're all pushing toward the same goal.
On a tangent, I'd just like to address the issue of competitions. Down the road we do actually plan to sponsor competitions as well as riding sessions for Fuzion/Quadcarver products. But that is all dependent on some of your abilities to push the misconceptions of the Asphalt and scooters in general, to show the public that "extreme" riding can be done and that we are just as capable as any other board sport on TV. Movements do not happen overnight.
Brian Boston
I got myself banned.
Yeah really. Steven especially, if you dont like it just stop posting in the thread and bashing the product. Some of us are trying to ride these things and support them so they can help support the sport in the future you know? Who knows, maybe they will come out with a 2 wheel scooter somtime, or wait with all the bashing going on in this thread they might not bother considering it becuase they found out how beat some of you guys are being.Nextsport said:
Yeah so in other news... i bent my axles but my dads gonna make me some grade 8 or titanium ones. Im going to try to get some stuff on film once i get them (yeah and if any of you guys think of even saying they break to easys, whats the first thing you do to your new razor when you pull it out of the box? lock the folding mech, put a pair of yaks on ect... so shut up)
brian did you change the thread name or did addy... or another mod? it went from Fuzion Scooters to Fuzion cooters back to Fuzion Scooters now... lol
anyway...
my fuzion was picked up from my doorstep (or was stolen from my doorstep)... and reeves is going to get one to test and my friend tyler i filmed and edited a video... my friend steve wants one but he just wants a free scooter and doesnt plan on actually testing it or giving reviews on it so im not helping him with his video haha.
anyway...
my fuzion was picked up from my doorstep (or was stolen from my doorstep)... and reeves is going to get one to test and my friend tyler i filmed and edited a video... my friend steve wants one but he just wants a free scooter and doesnt plan on actually testing it or giving reviews on it so im not helping him with his video haha.
Fuzion
Member
Let me just say for the record (again)- it's not that we mind the negative feedback. It's the unwarranted feedback coming from riders who have never even seen an Asphalt in person, much less ridden one. What they're doing is drawing away from the intentions of my presence here on the forums- to develop a testing panel with a variety of different types of riders from different backgrounds. It's unfortunate but new readers to this thread/forum will read some of the claims from those that have yet to even touch an Asphalt, and take their word as gospel. This does two things- one, decreases the amount of feedback we receive to help improve a product for you, the consumer. And two, it creates yet more inner turmoil in an already dwindling recreational sport. People have the tendency to say that scootering is JUST for "kids;" would you like to add to that misconception that scootering is JUST for Razor riders and leave out every other variation of a scooter? It's hypocritical of some of you to say you want the expansion and inclusion of scooters in events such as the X-Games, etc. and then turn around and make claims about the "inferiority" of the Asphalt based on what? The fact that it has 2 more wheels?
My intent is not to convert as many Razor riders as possible to solely use the Fuzion Asphalt. That would be impossible and would serve no purpose other than to decrease the growth of scooter use in general. Those that HAVE received and ridden the Asphalt can and will tell you that the two share only a common bond in that they are both scooters- I'm sure they can all attest to the fact that the ride is completely different than on a 2 wheel Razor. I'm not comparing the two in terms of superiority as it would come down to personal choice what people liked better.
What I ask of those sending in submissions through this forum is that you keep and open mind when riding.
My intent is not to convert as many Razor riders as possible to solely use the Fuzion Asphalt. That would be impossible and would serve no purpose other than to decrease the growth of scooter use in general. Those that HAVE received and ridden the Asphalt can and will tell you that the two share only a common bond in that they are both scooters- I'm sure they can all attest to the fact that the ride is completely different than on a 2 wheel Razor. I'm not comparing the two in terms of superiority as it would come down to personal choice what people liked better.
What I ask of those sending in submissions through this forum is that you keep and open mind when riding.
Brian Boston
I got myself banned.
Madis said:
farmboy uk
Steel Member
i think they could be fun and im in no way bad mouthing them because im sure they're cool, just like my micro flex which is cool but is never used anymore
the_SD_local
I own SR.
Let me just start by saying that it is okay to state your opinion but if your opinion is uninformed (which goes for about 90% of you) I will start banning people. If you have a Fuzion and you love it. Say so. If you have a Fuzion and you hate it. Say so. If you have a Fuzion and it broke and you have some CONSTRUCTIVE critism then let us hear it but if you don't have a Fuzion then please SHUT UP.
Yes. It is a completely different machine in almost every way shape and form that simply is not capable of the same kind of maneuvers as it's 2-wheeled cousins and is certainly not suitable for "freestyle". You trying to force people to ride freestyle on a Fuzion is like trying to force a shortboard surfer to do a 360 air on a 10 foot longboard or forcing a vert skater to do a 900 on a longboard or forcing a BMX rider to do a double backflip on a beach cruiser or an FMX rider to do a 90 foot double on a Harley or... You get the point. None of these things will ever happen. This thing is the longboard of scooters which means CRUISING only especially the way it is currently constructed. Instead of forcing this trick based riding you should focus on what the Fuzion is good at which is going fast, carving and bombing hills. That is where it excels far better then 2-wheel scooters. Some people will learn tricks on the Fuzions but they will never have the variety of a 2 wheeled scooter which is what organizations like the X-Games look for.
I am all for expanding scooters into the main stream but you have to remember that not all boardsports are the same just like not all bicycles are the same just like not all scooters are the same. There are:
- Razors
- Micros
- Trikkes
- Know-Peds
- Grow-Peds
- Digglers (old school)
- Snow Scooters
- Water Scooters
- Fuzions
Not to mention all the motorized company's who are pushing for the same mainstream publicity while disregarding everyone else. You are picking a hard market to break into with a product that isn't all that capable. You need to be original and tap a market that no one else has yet which is the downhill carving aspect because everyone here has already found their freestyle scooters. You can't tell people to be open to different things and expect them to change their riding to suit your product, you need to change your product to suit their riding. If you want to compete with Razor in the freestyle market then you need to design a scooter that can do so and do it better.
Nextsport said:
Yes. It is a completely different machine in almost every way shape and form that simply is not capable of the same kind of maneuvers as it's 2-wheeled cousins and is certainly not suitable for "freestyle". You trying to force people to ride freestyle on a Fuzion is like trying to force a shortboard surfer to do a 360 air on a 10 foot longboard or forcing a vert skater to do a 900 on a longboard or forcing a BMX rider to do a double backflip on a beach cruiser or an FMX rider to do a 90 foot double on a Harley or... You get the point. None of these things will ever happen. This thing is the longboard of scooters which means CRUISING only especially the way it is currently constructed. Instead of forcing this trick based riding you should focus on what the Fuzion is good at which is going fast, carving and bombing hills. That is where it excels far better then 2-wheel scooters. Some people will learn tricks on the Fuzions but they will never have the variety of a 2 wheeled scooter which is what organizations like the X-Games look for.
I am all for expanding scooters into the main stream but you have to remember that not all boardsports are the same just like not all bicycles are the same just like not all scooters are the same. There are:
- Razors
- Micros
- Trikkes
- Know-Peds
- Grow-Peds
- Digglers (old school)
- Snow Scooters
- Water Scooters
- Fuzions
Not to mention all the motorized company's who are pushing for the same mainstream publicity while disregarding everyone else. You are picking a hard market to break into with a product that isn't all that capable. You need to be original and tap a market that no one else has yet which is the downhill carving aspect because everyone here has already found their freestyle scooters. You can't tell people to be open to different things and expect them to change their riding to suit your product, you need to change your product to suit their riding. If you want to compete with Razor in the freestyle market then you need to design a scooter that can do so and do it better.
the_SD_local
I own SR.
I just wanted to clarify that I am in no way bad mouthing the Fuzion because I personally love mine for cruising, carving and bombing hills but if I'm going to the skatepark I will be taking my Razor. To each it's own.
P.S. - I am allowed to double post because this is my site and I don't want to edit that last post.
P.S. - I am allowed to double post because this is my site and I don't want to edit that last post.
Fuzion
Member
I think you misinterpreted what I had previously pointed out as my intentions were not to step on anyones toes. What I had meant was that the Fuzion and any other scooter are there own beasts and have their own pros and cons respectively. It's never been said and I've never claimed they were better for freestyle riding or trick riding- however, being that that is what the majority of the forum does on their particular device everyone took it on themselves to make that the driving factor in this rather inane debate about which is better or worse.
I have mentioned it and will restate that we'd absolutely love to see a great video or picture of any of you carving to the max on the Fuzion. And like you said we can't force you to do something you're not capable of- hence the talk and abundance of media in a "trick" aspect.
We understand that the scooter market is hard to define, but then again that is a driving force behind our product. If you take a look at the list of products you named you can see that Fuzion takes a lot of different aspects of each and combines them...thereby "fus/zing" them together.
And this is where SR comes into play. You and the constituents of the forum have gone above and beyond the limits and initial expectations of the "average" scooter rider. We here at Nextsport acknowledge and respect that and are asking you to do the same with the Asphalt be it bombing down a hill and carving like a snowboarder or doing a full whip like Chris has acheived. The only real limits are those of misconception- say you can't do it and you'll never attempt to. We respect the effort and ingenuity of each of our riders no matter their expertise, riding style or skill- in the end we hope that the rider enjoys the product no matter what avenue they take to get there.
I have mentioned it and will restate that we'd absolutely love to see a great video or picture of any of you carving to the max on the Fuzion. And like you said we can't force you to do something you're not capable of- hence the talk and abundance of media in a "trick" aspect.
We understand that the scooter market is hard to define, but then again that is a driving force behind our product. If you take a look at the list of products you named you can see that Fuzion takes a lot of different aspects of each and combines them...thereby "fus/zing" them together.
And this is where SR comes into play. You and the constituents of the forum have gone above and beyond the limits and initial expectations of the "average" scooter rider. We here at Nextsport acknowledge and respect that and are asking you to do the same with the Asphalt be it bombing down a hill and carving like a snowboarder or doing a full whip like Chris has acheived. The only real limits are those of misconception- say you can't do it and you'll never attempt to. We respect the effort and ingenuity of each of our riders no matter their expertise, riding style or skill- in the end we hope that the rider enjoys the product no matter what avenue they take to get there.
dan barrett
Member
damn nextsport are u ever going to send me an email back or what?
scooterpro
Member
yeh bra there so fun too
kyle christensen
Member
i <3 my fuzion