how can i tell the diffrence

[Gaston]

between the first phoenix and the second? both non intergrated, sorry if theres already a thread, i cant search on my phone

 

[nick silverman]

the first one has a sticker on the head tube

 

[Stackies]

there is none really just strength wise..

 

[edy boi]

there all weak : ) get a madd gear

 

[SpenserC.]

Get a Phoenix, there the shit

 

[mason buckley]

there all weak : ) get a madd gear

true

 

[devinthedew2]

madd gear is defiantly not better then a phoenix lolz!

 

[Kieran Mayhew]

Personal preference man. I prefer them to Phoenixes, along with others in this thread. Nothing wrong with opinion

 

[scootertoot64]

1st version had a weaker downtube. they fixed that in 2nd version so now the headtube wont break. and i think Phoenix decks are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better than madd gears. madd gears well, there kinda like razor because their products are mass produced. but madd gear is still reallly goood