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MattThomMakesMeWarmInside

MattThomMakesMeWarmInside

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(rip dave brubeck)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs

I'm very aware of the concept of 5/4, and upon being told to count the song, I instantly recognize 4/4 is wrong and that 5/4 is right, but that subtlety in sound...since we naturally tend to play in 4/4 without even thinking about it, I wonder myself how to go about writing a piece in 5/4. I suppose it would be simple as holding out another beat before putting emphasis on the next one, but at the same time, I'm not sure it's that simple.
 
iSEESOUNDS

iSEESOUNDS

Bronze member
I've played in 5/4 7/4 7/8 7/16 and many other key signatures, the weirdest one was probably 7/16 because of the marching we had to do with it. But yeah, it is weird to hold off the emphasis to the next note, you have to teach yourself to do it.

Also, I've been listening to Buddy Rich and his Big Band along with Gerry Mulligan and Maynard Ferguson, its awesome.
 
cas13

cas13

Bronze member
My private teacher has played with Maynard Ferguson^

Album dump:

Cannoball Adderley - Cannonball and Coltrane
Louis Armstrong - The Hot Five, Volume 1
Sidney Bechet - The Best of Sidney Bechet
Art Blakey - Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers
Ornette Coleman - Shape of Jazz to Come
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme; Giant Steps
Chick Corea - Romantic Warrior, Return to Forever
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue; Milestones; 'Round Midnight
Bill Evans - You Must Believe in Spring
Dizzy Gillespie - Shaw 'Nuff
Dexter Gordon - GO
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage
Coleman Hawkins - Body and Soul
Freddie Hubbard - The Best of Freddie Hubbard
Keith Jarrett - Belonging
Wynton Marsalis - Black Codes From the Underground
Thelonious Monk - The Genius of Modern Jazz
Lee Morgan - Sidewinder
Jelly Roll Morton - The Pearls
Gerry Mulligan - Lee Konitz Plays With The Gerry Mulligan Quartet
Oliver Nelson - Blues and the Abstract Truth
Charlie Parker - The Charlie Parker Story
Sonny Rollins - Saxophone Colossus
Wayne Shorter - The Best of Wayne Shorter
Horace Silver - Song For My Father
Art Tatum - Art Tatum
Weather Report - Heavy Weather
 
iSEESOUNDS

iSEESOUNDS

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I think I love that picture.
 
dpnelson31

dpnelson31

Steel Member
I am a Jazz Studies/Performance minor at UGA playing trombone.

I like Charlie Parker, Sonny Rollins, Wycliffe Gordon, Joe Grandsden and his big band, Count Basie and his orchestra, Sonny Helmer, Mingus, and so many more.

Jazz is the greatest to play. I was first alternate for All-State Jazz here in Georgia last year.
 
tylerbillman

tylerbillman

Steel Member
grant said:
(rip dave brubeck)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmDDOFXSgAs

I'm very aware of the concept of 5/4, and upon being told to count the song, I instantly recognize 4/4 is wrong and that 5/4 is right, but that subtlety in sound...since we naturally tend to play in 4/4 without even thinking about it, I wonder myself how to go about writing a piece in 5/4. I suppose it would be simple as holding out another beat before putting emphasis on the next one, but at the same time, I'm not sure it's that simple.
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it's called counting yo
 
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Timur

Steel Member
You guys really surprised me positively with this thread. I'm a big jazz fan though I cannot name much composers/performers (comparing to your lists). My favorite composer is probably Django Reinhardt, I am a huge fan of gypsy-jazz though pretty much all of the subgenres - from swing and bebop to fusion and smooth - are really interesting.

edit: On a side note, maybe that's how cross-cultural differences work for ya haha. While Cold War jazz was prohibited in USSR because it was believed to spread the lifestyle of its ideological enemy. On the contrary, I believe in the US jazz is treated as one of the biggest achievements of Western culture, so that's why it is natural for all of you to name such big lists. As well as it is ordinary for me to know the names of Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Rachmaninoff, Glinka and other famous Russian classical composers.
Correct me if I am wrong with my little observation, but yeah, that's quite interesting :)
 
iSEESOUNDS

iSEESOUNDS

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grant said:
how do you march to 7/16?
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Well we'd switch from 11/16 and 7/16. The way our director told us to count it was "1-2-3a4-5a1-2-3....." The first 3 would be marched like quarter notes and where the "a"s are would be a shorter "stutter" step. Its hard to explain
 
cas13

cas13

Bronze member
We recently played a piece that had 9/4, 17/8, and 4/1. It sounded crazy, dude said he was influenced by Rush and Zappa while writing it hah. If I ever find a recording of it I'll post it here.

But counting those isn't too hard. Just subdivide, like 9/4 is just 1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,4. If you have to solo its pretty difficult but you just have to get a feel. A new tune we got yesterday is in 4/4 with a 5/4 at the end of a 4 bar phrase, it's pretty wacky but the song slays
 
tylerbillman

tylerbillman

Steel Member
I played this song with my combo this semester for our concert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJF5zB7YcXc

It's got 2/4 and 3/4, am I cool now?

Timur said:
You guys really surprised me positively with this thread. I'm a big jazz fan though I cannot name much composers/performers (comparing to your lists). My favorite composer is probably Django Reinhardt, I am a huge fan of gypsy-jazz though pretty much all of the subgenres - from swing and bebop to fusion and smooth - are really interesting.

edit: On a side note, maybe that's how cross-cultural differences work for ya haha. While Cold War jazz was prohibited in USSR because it was believed to spread the lifestyle of its ideological enemy. On the contrary, I believe in the US jazz is treated as one of the biggest achievements of Western culture, so that's why it is natural for all of you to name such big lists. As well as it is ordinary for me to know the names of Tchaikovsky, Mussorgsky, Rachmaninoff, Glinka and other famous Russian classical composers.
Correct me if I am wrong with my little observation, but yeah, that's quite interesting :)
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I'd say that's a valid observation.
Jazz is one of the only purely American things. It was born here and it was largely developed here so knowing artists is a requirement when being a jazz musician!!!
 
Tyler Jones

Tyler Jones

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I play upright bass. Went to all state. Listen to Christian McBride, Charles Mingus, Jaco Pastorius, Ron Carter, Sam Jones, Avery Sharpe. All of those are bass guys. Cannonball Adderly, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker and Paul Desmond are my favorite horn players.
 
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