I basically always knew it was like this. See, the Vets of this sport...myself included, and a lot of others on here, used to bounce around from Forum to Forum back in 01, sharing new tricks with eachother...But we had to teach ourselves..and learn ourselves. Now a days, there are so many new riders that come and came to the new and old SR. And they take it for granted...that there is a trick section, where they can ask questions, about how to do tricks. And how we can easily answer them. Therefore Pete, there is truth to your theory, It took all the Vets longer to learn our tricks...cause we had no one to go to, to teach us. We had to learn ourselves...I myself taught myself double whips on flat..no kickers or ledges...and same for fingerwhips...i wish i had someone to help me with them back then. And new riders progress extremely fast because they can watch these new videos, and ask questions, and therefore they know what to do. Im just trying to point out how a lot of you new riders to the scene, need to sit and think about how you guys got it made...to be able to just come on to a site like this, or talk to these "Pros" on AIM and be able to get tips and watch videos....hmm..ok done.