conordavidson
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Yea, I wasn't saying that it was holes, just giving an example of what it could be. I was just assuring him that it wouldn't be a flat surface.Hep Greg said:
METAL CORE WHEELS HAVE BEEN RELEASED!
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the_SD_local
I own SR.
I know you make wheels and everything you said is correct BUT you don't make scooter wheels and the way these are made is going to remain my secret... for now at least...eagle wheels said:
hahahahaha, good, you are absolute right that my wheels are in basic for Rollerski.
BUT from my 15+years experience I know that those wheels are absolute no problem to use for scooters also.
The main difference now between the Eagle wheels and Scooter wheels now is the thickness of the core because we try to get it as light as possible (BUT we use a HIGH grade Alu - SI 0,5 or 1), and we want to have a nice design.
At rollerskiing the wheels needs to survive forces at speeds up to 70km/h including the heat that is building up with this speeds.
IF wheels resists those kinds of stress (also on just 2 wheels), then the wheels are absolute suitable for scooters also even when used for stunts.
We test the wheels for several properties like Strenght, Rebound, Speed, tearstength etc etc by using specialized equipment.
One thing we found out in the past is that you loose between 20 and 40% rebound when you use a higher rim in the middle of the core (hope its the right English, do not know the word for it sorry)
The smoother you want to ride, the higher you want to jump, the more rebound you need. We always try to strive for a rebound of 90 to 100% because less is worse
BUT from my 15+years experience I know that those wheels are absolute no problem to use for scooters also.
The main difference now between the Eagle wheels and Scooter wheels now is the thickness of the core because we try to get it as light as possible (BUT we use a HIGH grade Alu - SI 0,5 or 1), and we want to have a nice design.
At rollerskiing the wheels needs to survive forces at speeds up to 70km/h including the heat that is building up with this speeds.
IF wheels resists those kinds of stress (also on just 2 wheels), then the wheels are absolute suitable for scooters also even when used for stunts.
We test the wheels for several properties like Strenght, Rebound, Speed, tearstength etc etc by using specialized equipment.
One thing we found out in the past is that you loose between 20 and 40% rebound when you use a higher rim in the middle of the core (hope its the right English, do not know the word for it sorry)
The smoother you want to ride, the higher you want to jump, the more rebound you need. We always try to strive for a rebound of 90 to 100% because less is worse
Chaseme37
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^^^ you work for eagle sport? I ordered wheels from you like a month ago and have yet to recieve them. wtf. find my order and tell me when my freaking wheels will be here. my name is Chase Adams and I ordered two yellow metalcores
edit: yeah I just checked. I ordered 2 yellow metalcores on August 22. you guys didn't even SHIP THE PACKAGE until September 17. That is freaking unbelievable. Order 782, see for yourself.
edit: yeah I just checked. I ordered 2 yellow metalcores on August 22. you guys didn't even SHIP THE PACKAGE until September 17. That is freaking unbelievable. Order 782, see for yourself.
eagle wheels said:
Sorry, but riding skateparks/freestyle applies diffirent forces on the wheels than high-speed rolling. So you cannot compare riding 70km/h dowhhill with riding skateparks. Yes, i'm sure that if you'd take a curve at 70km/h, you'll apply some force on the wheels but it is still not comparable with the force you apply on the scooter wheels when you tailwhip and land sketchy. Taking curves is comparable with a pressure that you can get when pressing vice jaws together. Landing sketchy tailwhips is comparable with hammering.
We've all seen broken Eagle wheels, all that in less than 2 years of experience.
Rollerski's wheels are still for rollerskis, not for scooters.
You can call me a hypocrite for riding Micro wheels which are rollerski wheels, but to be honest, there weren't any better at that very moment.
Do you honestly think that any person on Eagle Sports knows what's up with their orders?Chaseme37 said:
Most probably he might not be the guy who deals with orders.
E-mail them. This thread is not the place for customer support.
It eventually got shipped out, be happy. I've ordered two helmets from USA and they never got shipped out.
Chaseme37
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well madis it's hard to be happy that the wheels took a month to get shipped out when I'm on a deadline, I have until October 15 and from then on I'm not a scooter rider for at least 2 years if not ever. I'd like to ride my eagle sports for at least a couple weeks before that date.
humpurple kushiones
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bring you scooter manChaseme37 said:
skooterkid
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He's gonna be on a mission, so he CANT.liltony said:
daniel_huber
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he cant its a church mission thing im guessing
humpurple kushiones
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for 2 years?
Shaun Walton
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those look pretty sick, but they are only made in 110's. So will they be made in 100's later on or no? and $80 is a good price for em, cheaper then micro metal cores shipped and all, and most likely stronger
conordavidson
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I'd doubt that he'd make them 100mm. I don't know why people prefer 100mm, 110s are faster, smoother, and you get more ground clearance. I think Andrew made the cores specifically for 110mm. If you shaved 10mm of urethane off the wheels in the picture, you wouldn't be left with much. So unless he made two different core sizes, I think he'll be sticking with 110s. I could be wrong though. Besides, the only reason people ran 100mm Micro's were because the 110s were just more urethane on the same size core which made it more prone to breaking.Shaun Walton said:
JonnyJonDogg
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goddd i just keep getting more excited, will they be selling the same time on sr, as weescooters.com?
gorrilaman
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JonDogg said:
Ehhh read what I said again. I think you misunderstood me. I'm trying to say that it is not a rip off for these wheels to be 80bucks. They can be worth anything since there is nothing at the moment close to it in terms of quality , it's monopolized and Andrew has the right to make it whatever price he wants because it is good (according to Matt Mckeen and Brandon Kilbury's testing I heard from Greg )and for his efforts going into these wheels and it is still not a rip off unless you find a new company with wheels exactly the same quality and cheaper.
Sorry I do not work for Eagle Sport, I am Eagle Sport...
You did not order any wheels with me, sorry, probably you ordered at a retailer, plse contact them (or sent me a email insteat of asking in this forum, I always will answer FAST.and I will be BANNED when I advertise)
Yeh, Madis, youre right it is a different game but I can assure you that IÃ?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?â??Ã?´m well known with how it works in a skatepark (we had our own stuntteam a few years ago and they used our wheels then).
What I ment with those stress the wheels get at those speeds (tryed to put it in a nutshell otherwise it takes a whole page) is that when wheels are used that way that materials get that hot that all materials get softer (also the ALU) and weaker. If you use the wrong Urethane it can be changed into GUM and Alu can deform...
I believe that there can be a core broken because of the use in a skatepark, just like EVERY wheel, fork or what ever material you use for freestyle can break. The only way to avoid that is to make it all HEAVIER and I do not think thats the issue.
Its a risk you have to calculate in when U use materials for stunt/freestyle.....everything can break...
I have to correct you on the MICRO wheels, these are NOT rollerski wheels !! AND IÃ?Æ?ââ?¬Å¡Ã?â??Ã?´M SURE because I dominate the rollerskimarket and know very well whats used or not.sorry.
I will never call you a hypocrite hahahaha, everybody is free to have their own opinion (like me) and I think that discussing can make us all learn more about it.
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