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Dom Marconi

Silver Member
Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about.
It's less efficient to make a steel deck, which is why it isn't going to happen.
Why would you use steel when you can use aluminum?



because steel or chromoly has better resistance to fatigue than aluminium so it would last a lot longer, even if it's designed to be the same strength.

You also have no idea what you are talking about. I am a mechanical engineer, don't try and tell me about this.
 

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
All that dom wants to say without insulting you too much is alu is the superior material in the case of manufacturing scooter parts ex bars because of its malleability (easy to machine and easy to shape), stiffness once heat treated (most aluminium alloys have a considerably higher strength to weight ratio (as far as ultimate tensile strength and yield strength goes)) and availability. Cr-mo issues are low malleability thanks to it steel properties, unless properly heat treated will bend easily and why make something heavier and harder to mass manufacture. Bars are a different story as its just simple tubing, you dont want snapping alu bars so it is an easy choice.
 

jacob93

Bronze member
All that dom wants to say without insulting you too much is alu is the superior material in the case of manufacturing scooter parts ex bars because of its malleability (easy to machine and easy to shape), stiffness once heat treated (most aluminium alloys have a considerably higher strength to weight ratio (as far as ultimate tensile strength and yield strength goes)) and availability. Cr-mo issues are low malleability thanks to it steel properties, unless properly heat treated will bend easily and why make something heavier and harder to mass manufacture. Bars are a different story as its just simple tubing, you dont want snapping alu bars so it is an easy choice.

Yeah I understand that but you could make a deck out of simple chromoly tube like the RAD dirtscoot or the style of the old TSIs. I wouldn't mind paying more to have a deck that I know's going to last ages and not wear through quickly because of grinds. You rarely see a bmx frame snapping yet scooter decks are doing it all the time so just because it may be quicker and cheaper to produce alu alloy decks, it doesn't mean it's the better option.
 

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
Yeah I understand that but you could make a deck out of simple chromoly tube like the RAD dirtscoot or the style of the old TSIs. I wouldn't mind paying more to have a deck that I know's going to last ages and not wear through quickly because of grinds. You rarely see a bmx frame snapping yet scooter decks are doing it all the time so just because it may be quicker and cheaper to produce alu alloy decks, it doesn't mean it's the better option.

Ok, you really dont get it. To design a strong crmo deck which i looked into some time ago and the only way to make it even close to as good as even say a tsi/phoenix in strength, say 1.4-5 kg minimum involves very expensive tooling to produce and even then after wasting all those man hours and investments in development, the design of a scooter will not allow crmo to hold stiffness where its needed thus end result bending deck before 6 months.

Forgot to add the thickness of the crmo tubing would wear through in the same time as an alloy deck as it would be 1/2 as thin.
 

RiccardoM

Steel Member
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issac p

Silver Member
Yeah I understand that but you could make a deck out of simple chromoly tube like the RAD dirtscoot or the style of the old TSIs. I wouldn't mind paying more to have a deck that I know's going to last ages and not wear through quickly because of grinds. You rarely see a bmx frame snapping yet scooter decks are doing it all the time so just because it may be quicker and cheaper to produce alu alloy decks, it doesn't mean it's the better option.

it actually happens all the time lol
even the strongest frames bend and crack
 

instinctscooter

Silver Member
bmx frames have much more room height wise to make a frame, and therefore can make a better structure, a scooter deck is 1inch thick so its harder to make them strong
 
I would love to see a deck with the goose neck lining up with the structural frame in the inside of the deck to distribute the weight easier/better. Billie Rainbow might be able to explain it a lot better although cause he actually told me the idea. Also, would a one piece deck with no welds be a lot stronger than deck with welds?? I know Trilogy is doing that but im wondering if its worth it compared to other decks with welds.....
 

thealexbuffery

Gold Member
there should be some mini (very mini) locator that you can stick on your scoot or bike or whatever, so if you loose your scoot/bike then you can go on the internet and find where it is from there
lol

would be useful for some cases
 
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