Proposition 19

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Brian Boston

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"6. Alcohol has caused significant health, social and crime problems in the country. By legalizing marijuana, we would only make the situation worse. Do we want our bus drivers, nurses and airline pilots to be able to use marijuana one evening and operate freely at work the next day?"

Hahah thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Smoke a bowl and your gonna be perfect sober in about an hour and a half. Theres no next morning hang over.
 
Rob.

Rob.

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people need to stop comparing it to alcohol. It's not alcohol that kills people (although cirrhosis can..) it's PEOPLE. If people drank in their house and in acceptable amounts, it wouldn't be bad.

Same with weed. What do most people do when they're high? (I don't know, i don't smoke).
If people stayed home and drank, it wouldn't be an issue.

Idk im just getting annoyed at people who compare alcohol and weed. completely different substances
 
Anthony_Q

Anthony_Q

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Rσb said:
people need to stop comparing it to alcohol. It's not alcohol that kills people (although cirrhosis can..) it's PEOPLE. If people drank in their house and in acceptable amounts, it wouldn't be bad.

Same with weed. What do most people do when they're high? (I don't know, i don't smoke).
If people stayed home and drank, it wouldn't be an issue.

Idk im just getting annoyed at people who compare alcohol and weed. completely different substances
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lol ill answer that


chill eat laugh and watch tv, and ride.

people do stay home and drink though, then they beat their wives. (obviously a very small percent do beat their wives, but it happens) no one gets high and decides to beat their wives.

people are comparing it to alcohol because.. well i guess because alcohol went through the same thing in the 1920-30s.

but alcohol is legal now and its hell of alot more dangerous than mj. and mj cant kill you, alcohol can. easily, when you're piss drunk the alcohol speaks, and tells you to drink more. my neighbor died of alcohol poisoning a fer years ago (rip that dude made the best burgers.)

if its legalized today marijuana is going to be on the same level as alcohol as far as being 21 and rules and regulations, thats pretty much why people compare it.
 
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Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
Rσb said:
people need to stop comparing it to alcohol. It's not alcohol that kills people (although cirrhosis can..) it's PEOPLE. If people drank in their house and in acceptable amounts, it wouldn't be bad.

Same with weed. What do most people do when they're high? (I don't know, i don't smoke).
If people stayed home and drank, it wouldn't be an issue.

Idk im just getting annoyed at people who compare alcohol and weed. completely different substances
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Its completely fine to compare them. Ones legal and dangerous while the other one is harmless and illegal. Alcohol doesn't kill people but it defiantly makes people do shit that they wouldn't normally do. I've done plenty of stupid stuff drunk that I wouldn't have done sober.

Drinking at your house? That sucks. If I'm drinking I want to go get slobbered at the bar with all the other people getting slobbered. And I'm more likely to drive home wasted after drinking alcohol rather than wait an hour after smoking for myself to come down from my high and drive home.
 
Anthony_Q

Anthony_Q

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honestly id rather be in a car with someone who has had 6 blunts than someone who has had a shot of rum, or a beer. i feel as safe in a car being driven by someone ripped as balls as i do in a car with my mom, cause i know it really doesnt make you drive like an asshole. if anything when people are high, they are more paranoid = more careful. at least thats how it is for me, legally i cant drive yet but i have driven while high/ sober and i think i probably drove better when i was high. imo
 
MattThomMakesMeWarmInside

MattThomMakesMeWarmInside

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If weed were to be legal, I wonder how much the government would make on it.
Getting high isn't dangerous as the new generation is beginning to find out thanks to the internet media with new research, and Prop 19. After all, you are smoking the flower of a plant, not a chemically derived man made drug. Of course I could go on about how safe it is but...

Prop 19:
Weed is EASY to grow. Alcohol? Sure, people age sour grapes in their basements for years and stuff to make wine, but moonshine liquor ain't a very common thing, and home brewing dispensaries for beer? People buy alcohol. If weed is legal, a lot of people are going to grow it. This isn't doing the government any justice. The government doesn't care.

(one of my huge concerns setting aside that people should be allowed to smoke recreationally at home)

THE PAPER. Holy ----- the paper. A marijuana plant makes 4 times as much paper as a regular tree would, and it only takes 2 1/2 months to grow. You can't even get high off hemp, a strain of marijuana with virtually no THC, yet the government keeps it illegal. Perhaps they feel people will get to comfortable growing marijuana at home. This doesn't make sense. Why don't they have regulated paper making industries growing hemp? Its corrupt.

Prop 19 wasn't worded finely enough either. Anti-Adds like "your child's bus-driver could be high" isn't actually what the bill targeted. When it says "workers won't be penalized for smoking marijuana" it's saying that businesses etc. can't fire employees for smoking marijuana off the job at home. (I.E. marijuana drug testing at work) There was also a couple of other things they could have been keener on. Also, there's huge anti-campaign adds coming from huge companies including oil companies, alcohol and tobacco companies, paper companies, etc. that marijuana legalization would hurt. KEEP THE DISCUSSION GOING!
 
j-DoGg

j-DoGg

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i dont get why it cant be legal..
seriously tobacco is legal but yet its wayyyyy more harmful then marijuana
same with alcohol its one of the leading causes of death in america and yet its legal

the goverment in my opinion is retarted because they legalize the stupid stuff...
witch ends up killing most
but they cant legalize a simple drug that doesnt even harm people..
and in reality actually helps disabled people who NEED it
like seriously what has america come to these days.

oh and same with cops when they take it away from you
they usually end up taking it back to their house and smoking it
so i dont see why it shouldnt be legal
 
tylerbillman

tylerbillman

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It's a narcotic drug which is why it shouldn't be allowed but even more so is the fact it can't be taxed or CONTROLLED. That's what the government wants is CONTROL.

I'm thinking it's a dumb idea.

Tobacco is legal because it has minimal side effects and because it's been used for hundreds and probably even thousands of years traditionally. It's addictive and there's billions of dollars in it and many powerful men saying what's what for it. So that's why tobacco is legal.
 
Anthony_Q

Anthony_Q

I got myself banned.
tylerbillman said:
It's a narcotic drug which is why it shouldn't be allowed but even more so is the fact it can't be taxed or CONTROLLED. That's what the government wants is CONTROL.

I'm thinking it's a dumb idea.

Tobacco is legal because it has minimal side effects and because it's been used for hundreds and probably even thousands of years traditionally. It's addictive and there's billions of dollars in it and many powerful men saying what's what for it. So that's why tobacco is legal.
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tobacco has minimal side effects?

Emphysema

Bronchitis

Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary disease

Coronary artery disease

Peripheral artery disease

Colorectal cancer

Liver cancer

Prostate cancer

Erectile dysfunction in men

Stomach cancer

Bladder and kidney cancer

Abdominal aortic aneurysm

Acute myeloid leukemia

Cataracts

Cervical cancer

Kidney cancer

Pancreatic cancer

Periodontitis

Pneumonia
good side effects of tobacco?
nothing.


side effects of marijuana?
no bad side effects.
( no it doesnt kill braincells at all, and no it doesnt cause cancer, or schizophrenia. those are all myths that have been proven wrong by science)
good ones?

im going to put up a link because i cant fit all the benefits on this page
http://www.marijuanamedicine.com/all-ailments.html


also marijuana has been used for OVER 10,000 years. maybe even longer than tobacco.

how many people have died from marijuana in history? 0
how many die from tobacco EVERY YEAR? 438... thousand.


wanna know why marijuana is illegal? because when the alcohol prohibition ended the people who controlled it were out of a job, so they needed something else to control, and that was cannabis. so they spread all this reefer madness bullshit and got people scared saying they would turn crazy and people bought that bull shit so it was made illegal.

also comming from someone with migraines, diabetes, insomnia, chronic back pains (no bullshit), i can say that weed is one of the best things that happened to me and if it was legal it would be alot better for me.

i take oxycottins for my migraines and it doesnt work as good as weed.

OH and who out there has add/adhd? weed helps alot for that too.
 
BrandonWeir

BrandonWeir

Steel Member
Does weed really make you lazy? Cause a lot of people say that smoking weed can kill your focus and cause you to do nothing. And I know of a lot of people who ended up like that. If thats true then pot+ADD is a bad combo.
 
Anthony_Q

Anthony_Q

I got myself banned.
OH MY FUCKING GOD. my dad totally supports legalization and i had no idea. but my mom keeps telling him its a gate way drug. im so tempted to completely own my mom on the subject right now.
 
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