Scooter Models (and mods) Explained in Convenient Text Form!

chrisisme

Member
Different Scooter Models Explained
I thought this would make a decent thread for all the people who sign up armed with unbolted new A's who go "what's a B model"? So, here's a rundown on everything you keed to know about stock scooters:

Razor "Old A" Scooter
An Old A is a scooter produced by Razor between 1999 and 2001 or so. This scooter is by far the most common of scooters you'll find at friend's houses, in your garage, etc. An Old A has no dropouts you can stand on like other Razors: the dropouts (things holding the back wheel on) are just strips of metal welded in the curved deck's hollow center channel (as opposed to a slightly narrowing deck on a B model). Many riders prefer the Old A to a B/Pro Model due to nostalgia, strength, weight, etc. You can get these scooters secondhand for about $30 on eBay or for much less from your friends or garage sales. Personally I've always had a soft spot for Old A's but the lack of dropouts you can stand on is a downer since I use them for manuals and to hit my fingerwhips

Razor B
The Razor B was a "deluxe model"-type scooter made around the same time as the A model. Unique about it was a longer deck with dropouts you could stand on, a front suspension system (that was prone to springs falling out), a different deck that had a box-like metal undercarriage, and a stronger folding mech. The B, although less easy to find than an Old A, was the preferred model for most riders until the release of the Pro. I have never ridden a B so I can't give my opinion.

Razor "New" A/A2/A3
The current Razor A series is similar to a B model, but with a smaller deck and generally weaker structure, complete with lackluster foldy. If you bought your scooter at a store, it is probably some form of an A model. These scooters are utter shit, do not ever buy. The folding mechanism can only be bolted in 2 points instead of 3, making the scooter less stable. On top of that, the deck is very weak; anyone riding over 100 pounds will probably break the deck in a week. On top of that, newer A models (made after 2005) have very, very weak-cored wheels and a rimmed fork so that you cannot reinforce it. There is no good reason to buy an A, although its $20 price tag makes it a great resource for spare parts; $20 bars or decks is pretty cheap. Some people ride New A's with B foldys due to the very light weight of such models. These people are on crack.

Razor Pro Model
The only scooter you can purchase new today that's worth riding, the Pro Model is basically a stronger improvement on the B model. The Pro features a standard, big fork (unlike the B's compression system), a double clamp, modifications on the deck, and the best stock wheels you can get. The best place to get a Pro is online as almost no store carries them. If you go Razor, this is by far the best model for any rider who doesn't prefer Old As. $45 at Amazon.

Micro Sprite/Bullet
Micro scooters have just as mixed reviews as Razors, some loving them and some hating the foldy. In my experience they are too easy to break.

SR Scooter (SR Deck)
The SR Scooter is a mythical scooter made entirely from parts made by Andrew (excludes the wheels and headset). This scooter would cost a few hundred dollars and would be amazing. So far, you can buy the SR Scooter's bars and forks, with the deck in development.

I hope I explained a lot and answered noob questions.

A text explanation for Common Scooter Mods

Locking a folding mechanism
This mod, virtually required for freestyle scootering, replaces your Razor's folding system with 3 bolts that hold your scooter's bars and headtube onto your deck. To do this, you will need to buy a few things: Two 2 1/2 inch long, 5/16 bolts, One 2 1/2 inch long, 3/8 bolt, two washers for each bolt, wrenches, and a small screwdriver. First, take your folding mech and remove the little black rings around the bottom pin. Use a screwdriver. This is very hard to do. Once you have one ring out, hammer the bolt through the scooter so that it pops out the other side. Now you can pull your headtube out. Next, remove the black rings around the folding lever and remove it. Once you do that, take everything out of the headtube, including the springs, pins, and everything. Now go to your deck. You will see a plate connecting the two sides of your folding mech together. Take this off using Metric allen keys, being careful not to strip the bolts. Finally, put your headtube in your folding mech, put the 5/16 bolt through the bottom hole, the 3/8 bolt through the top hole, and another 5/16 bolt in the foldy's hole behind the headtube. Now tighten the bolts HARD and you're good to go.
 

Punkfish

Member
The B's Fork isn't a compression system, it's shocks. The New A's are actually good, just not the foldy or headtube. If you slap a B or Pro Foldy and different headtube on there your good to go. Micro's can be reinforced so they don't break as easily. Also, you can reinforce a new A fork. You just have to get the right tube at a Home Depot or Lowes. And the New A's brake is the 2nd strongest break out there. First would be Madd.

Also, who are you?
 

daltonkennon

Steel Member
yeah, i broke my new a in like a couple days. cracked the deck, bent the forks and the dropouts in one day, and broke a wheel. they suck balls. only good thing is that they are soo light. i was doing whips on mine like crazy.
 

astars951

Member
thats the a's for you i broke like 5 of them in a couple of months. then said screw this and went to pro models everyone sould get one there sick
 

Punkfish

Member
You have to reinforce the dropouts on a New A B Foldy, and other stuff aswell. They require work, but they're a decent scooter.
 

diikforre

Member
i ride new a fork/bars/head tube...my fork prongs bent a lil but nothing un-rideable. thier not too bad i guess. the fork is impossible to re-inforce.
 

lloyd

Steel Member
eric magray said:
Owen McClure said:
.....The New A's are actually good......
if you only ride park and no flyout then maybe...

they actually are pretty good. I got a new a with a b neck and foldy, and a reinforced deck and I am always amazed at its lighness and easy whipability. It works fine for smaller riders but its kinda ankward to bigger/taller riders. the problem is when you go back to a pro, your riding will be fucked and you will have to take some time to get used to it again. the best way to use a new a b foldy, is to leave it in your garage as a spare scooter and use your pro as your all time scooter. when your pro breaks or has a problem, you use the new a and you will see how easier most tricks will be. then when you get another pro, or you can use your other again, you switch back to it. In other words you use you new a as a once in a while ride. Im going to do this because I have huge feet and am really tall which makes it hard for me to land directly on the deck on certain tricks. but it is the ideal scooter for small people.
 

Jordan Jasa

Silver Member
Lloyd Bureau said:
eric magray said:
Owen McClure said:
.....The New A's are actually good......
if you only ride park and no flyout then maybe...

they actually are pretty good. I got a new a with a b neck and foldy, and a reinforced deck and I am always amazed at its lighness and easy whipability. It works fine for smaller riders but its kinda ankward to bigger/taller riders. the problem is when you go back to a pro, your riding will be fucked and you will have to take some time to get used to it again. the best way to use a new a b foldy, is to leave it in your garage as a spare scooter and use your pro as your all time scooter. when your pro breaks or has a problem, you use the new a and you will see how easier most tricks will be. then when you get another pro, or you can use your other again, you switch back to it. In other words you use you new a as a once in a while ride. Im going to do this because I have huge feet and am really tall which makes it hard for me to land directly on the deck on certain tricks. but it is the ideal scooter for small people.
Yeah, thats basically what i do, except reversed. I ride a new a/b foldy primarily, and when that breaks I ride my pro until I can get a new a. Its pretty sweet because i can usually buy one off a friend for 5 bucks.

And Owen, I'm riding a new a headtube and have had no problems, haha.

Brian Boston said:
I broke a new a b folding mech, after about 6 months of riding it... how do you guys break scooters so fast...
Did you reinforce yours? Maybe its possible that when you rode yours new a decks were slightly stronger? i dunno
 

Punkfish

Member
New A Headtube left, Old A/Pro Headtube right.
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New A headtubes, are alot weaker and dont fit into some folding mechs properly so even locked tend to still move. Also, New A headtubes are waaaaay thinner as you can see. I've dented two, and my friends neck has a fat dent right in the front.
 

Brian Boston

I got myself banned.
Jordan said:
Brian Boston said:
I broke a new a b folding mech, after about 6 months of riding it... how do you guys break scooters so fast...
Did you reinforce yours? Maybe its possible that when you rode yours new a decks were slightly stronger? i dunno
Nope. The new a's that have the ridges on the outside of the decks (on the outside of the middle piece on the bottom) have dropouts like almost as strong as pros. I have one of my old a's from 3 years ago still that i didn't break.
 

scooterperu

Steel Member
Jordan said:
Lloyd Bureau said:
eric magray said:
Owen McClure said:
.....The New A's are actually good......
if you only ride park and no flyout then maybe...

they actually are pretty good. I got a new a with a b neck and foldy, and a reinforced deck and I am always amazed at its lighness and easy whipability. It works fine for smaller riders but its kinda ankward to bigger/taller riders. the problem is when you go back to a pro, your riding will be fucked and you will have to take some time to get used to it again. the best way to use a new a b foldy, is to leave it in your garage as a spare scooter and use your pro as your all time scooter. when your pro breaks or has a problem, you use the new a and you will see how easier most tricks will be. then when you get another pro, or you can use your other again, you switch back to it. In other words you use you new a as a once in a while ride. Im going to do this because I have huge feet and am really tall which makes it hard for me to land directly on the deck on certain tricks. but it is the ideal scooter for small people.
Yeah, thats basically what i do, except reversed. I ride a new a/b foldy primarily, and when that breaks I ride my pro until I can get a new a. Its pretty sweet because i can usually buy one off a friend for 5 bucks.

And Owen, I'm riding a new a headtube and have had no problems, haha.

Brian Boston said:
I broke a new a b folding mech, after about 6 months of riding it... how do you guys break scooters so fast...
Did you reinforce yours? Maybe its possible that when you rode yours new a decks were slightly stronger? i dunno
i broke my new A / B foldy after 6 days of riding..... THEY SUCK!
 

lloyd

Steel Member
Tyler Chambers! said:
the only reason people like new a's is because people who can barely whip can bust out a double flat

lol I do that. but I can do it with my pro too so its not that ridiculous
 

Jordan Jasa

Silver Member
[ScooterPeru said:
]
Jordan said:
Lloyd Bureau said:
eric magray said:
Owen McClure said:
.....The New A's are actually good......
if you only ride park and no flyout then maybe...

they actually are pretty good. I got a new a with a b neck and foldy, and a reinforced deck and I am always amazed at its lighness and easy whipability. It works fine for smaller riders but its kinda ankward to bigger/taller riders. the problem is when you go back to a pro, your riding will be fucked and you will have to take some time to get used to it again. the best way to use a new a b foldy, is to leave it in your garage as a spare scooter and use your pro as your all time scooter. when your pro breaks or has a problem, you use the new a and you will see how easier most tricks will be. then when you get another pro, or you can use your other again, you switch back to it. In other words you use you new a as a once in a while ride. Im going to do this because I have huge feet and am really tall which makes it hard for me to land directly on the deck on certain tricks. but it is the ideal scooter for small people.
Yeah, thats basically what i do, except reversed. I ride a new a/b foldy primarily, and when that breaks I ride my pro until I can get a new a. Its pretty sweet because i can usually buy one off a friend for 5 bucks.

And Owen, I'm riding a new a headtube and have had no problems, haha.

Brian Boston said:
I broke a new a b folding mech, after about 6 months of riding it... how do you guys break scooters so fast...
Did you reinforce yours? Maybe its possible that when you rode yours new a decks were slightly stronger? i dunno
i broke my new A / B foldy after 6 days of riding..... THEY SUCK!
ok, well, new a b foldys are usually only good for smaller riders, like me :)
 

lloyd

Steel Member
Jordan said:
[ScooterPeru said:
]
Jordan said:
Lloyd Bureau said:
eric magray said:
Owen McClure said:
.....The New A's are actually good......
if you only ride park and no flyout then maybe...

they actually are pretty good. I got a new a with a b neck and foldy, and a reinforced deck and I am always amazed at its lighness and easy whipability. It works fine for smaller riders but its kinda ankward to bigger/taller riders. the problem is when you go back to a pro, your riding will be fucked and you will have to take some time to get used to it again. the best way to use a new a b foldy, is to leave it in your garage as a spare scooter and use your pro as your all time scooter. when your pro breaks or has a problem, you use the new a and you will see how easier most tricks will be. then when you get another pro, or you can use your other again, you switch back to it. In other words you use you new a as a once in a while ride. Im going to do this because I have huge feet and am really tall which makes it hard for me to land directly on the deck on certain tricks. but it is the ideal scooter for small people.
Yeah, thats basically what i do, except reversed. I ride a new a/b foldy primarily, and when that breaks I ride my pro until I can get a new a. Its pretty sweet because i can usually buy one off a friend for 5 bucks.

And Owen, I'm riding a new a headtube and have had no problems, haha.

Brian Boston said:
I broke a new a b folding mech, after about 6 months of riding it... how do you guys break scooters so fast...
Did you reinforce yours? Maybe its possible that when you rode yours new a decks were slightly stronger? i dunno
i broke my new A / B foldy after 6 days of riding..... THEY SUCK!
ok, well, new a b foldys are usually only good for smaller riders, like me :)

totally my point. go get tons of new as now jordan.
 
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