speed holes

Mikey G

Mikey G

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It's a stupid fad. When you drill through parts and make them go "faster", all you're doing is making them weaker and getting rid of metal that was put there for a reason. It doesn't even make anything lighter. A speed holed RUP would probably be 2 oz less AT MOST
 
Billie Rainbow

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
hahaha at the kid saying its weaker, its taking the stress off the bad point and moving it to a strong point so it wont break as quick, why else do think maddgear will actually put some in if it made it weaker?
 
Mikey G

Mikey G

Member
I would believe Madd Gear would put it in, well because it sells to little kids. Honestly, how does drilling holes in deck take stress off the bad point? What the hell is the bad point? The deck will flex more if you drill wholes because there is less metal to bend, and you most likely will break that deck before a normal deck would break. Why the hell do you think on B-models the decks always break at the holes on the bottom for the screws to the foldy?
 
Billie Rainbow

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
because they are thin as hell. the weak point is just like a phoenix, the weld across the bottom. this has been lab and rider tested, it does not make it any weaker as you wont snap it at that same point as quick, the holes will take a percentage of the stress away which will infact make it last longer. they done it after i done it myself and none of the decks i have drilled have snapped at a drilled out point, only at the weld which will always be the weak point. i also drill the headtube which is the heavy point of the whole deck and i can do pretty much whatever as it has a 3.5 ton breaking point, the deck has a considerably lower breaking point which always broke at the weld.
 
Cheezel

Cheezel

Member
Billie Rainbow said:
because they are thin as hell. the weak point is just like a phoenix, the weld across the bottom. this has been lab and rider tested, it does not make it any weaker as you wont snap it at that same point as quick, the holes will take a percentage of the stress away which will infact make it last longer. they done it after i done it myself and none of the decks i have drilled have snapped at a drilled out point, only at the weld which will always be the weak point. i also drill the headtube which is the heavy point of the whole deck and i can do pretty much whatever as it has a 3.5 ton breaking point, the deck has a considerably lower breaking point which always broke at the weld.
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bulshit it has a 3.5 tonn breaking point
 
R

Renegade Scooters

I got myself banned.
I believe that the speed holes will only have a negative impact on flexural strength if drilled in the right spots and not at a key strength area...
 
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Renegade Scooters

I got myself banned.
JayJayScootsAllDay said:
I beleive you should all shut the fuck up because billie clearly knows what the fuck hes on about.
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Clearly someone seems a bit upset over nothing. It's all a matter of opinion.


I believe you can make a deck with speed holes that is as strong as a deck with out speed holes. It just has to be done correctly. I drilled 1.5 inch holes in my old phoenix deck and they went all the way through plus some on the sides of the head tube.. I gave it to a friend Alex on the Phoenix pro team and he still rides it and has not bent it or cracked it at all even though he has cracked another phoenix deck.
 
Mikey G

Mikey G

Member
3.5 ton breaking point? /facepalm

Maybe for you, maybe for just the nitros but when I spoke about the speed holes I mean't as a whole thing. Since you're a pro, respected rider you obviously know how to land properly, not landing with both feet right on the headtube, or both feet right on the brake. But when maybe a person who stilll doesn't land that smoothly gets a hold of it and lands with both feet on one of the drilled holes, that hole becames the main pressure point, and it will take the brunt of the force. Doing that repeatively will make it snap. I've seen the same thing happen with many pro models, and old RUPs. Yes, the nitro may be thicker and stronger, but when I see drilled out RUPs snapping at the holes, or pro models snapping at the brake holes, it obviously shows me it broke there because there is a hole there.

Honestly, I'm glad it's working out for you with your deck. But still for me it seems useless, and trendish. If this is known as a huge fact then why haven't we seen any of the MGP team riders doing this?

I'm not trying to be a dip----- or disrespectful. So don't start to think I'm trying to come off pissed.

Edit: I can safely say not all the breaks have been at the welds. They seem to be breaking behind the welds of the headtube.
 
rwall1905

rwall1905

Member
yea but i have a scooter which i drilled thru and it ride that much faster
fuck i mean my usual top speed down my hill is about 35kph and this morning when i tested it i went about 45kph.
im shit at riding scooter. im man enough to admit it.
i need lighter parts to do even an inward bri.
but with speed holes im that much faster and lighter.
it also levels out the scooter a high speeds if u put it in the frount not the head tube
i got a mgp team and a mambo comp scooter. the mambo is shit but i drilled it and it ride better then it ever did.
ill post pics later when i get a chance. fuck i hate school
 
Dom Marconi

Dom Marconi

Silver Member
Drilling holes in proper places can in fact, make a deck stronger. Let's say one part of the deck is very strong and rigid. Another part of the deck is very weak and flexible. When you land, the strong part will transfer all of the stress to the weak part, putting all of the stress on one part of the deck. This will lead to cracks/snapping. If the stronger/more rigid part of the deck has holes taken out of it, it will make that part more flexible/weaker. This means that the once strong part of the deck is now absorbing some of the stress, and transferring less stress over to the weaker part of the deck. This results in a more even distribution of stress, causing the deck to absorb more impact, instead of taking it out on the deck itself, in the form of cracks/snaps.

I hope that makes sense, I explained it as best as I could. This doesn't mean grabbing your hand drill and going insane on your RUP will give it godly strength haha. You have to drill the right size and amount of holes, or mill out the right shape, in the right location on the deck in order to make it stronger. All of the decks I ride, I custom mill sections out.
 
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lancedaman

Member
just don't do it, because drilling also alters the way the metal fails, as most metals in a tubular shape will bend before fracturing and when you drill holes in the structure it will change the way it brakes and it will snap.
aka don't do it, i work in a bike shop its not a good idea


also the chain is only as strong as its weakest link

just don't do it, bending metal is okay when you land on it but sharp snapped pieces don't make a comfy landing zone( aka stitches/ lacerations/ not fun stuff)
also drilling holes will in no way make a piece stronger and unless you have a materials engineering i would not suggest on recommending subtracting from metal.
anyways i mean the scooter did put money into researching how to make a strong/light deck ( except for mgp on the light part) but whatever
i think its stupid and idiotic
 
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