humpurple kushiones
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no, definitely not. stem cells are grown in test tubes.
Stem cells
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no, definitely not. stem cells are grown in test tubes.
JoshNunez
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I can't believe how immature you are.
humpurple kushiones
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im not immature. im rational. anyone who opposes stem cell research is a subhuman. stem cells are a patch of cells too small to see without a microscope, grown in test tubes from in vitro fertilization, coming from 2 cells (spem and egg) that usually die anyway in nature, meet in a testtube, and in 2-5 days turns into a few lifeless cells that could save lives. you can't possibly tell me to have respect for an opinion opposed to something like that. you're immature if you do have respect for that.
tylerbillman
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"potential life"
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
they're opposing a life saving treatment.. thats respectable?
they never had any potential as an actual being, ever. they were conceived by a bunch of lab equipment, to provide people with horrible handicaps with treatments. if this is destroying a potential life, jerking off is an apocalypse.
tylerbillman
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Well put!
JoshNunez
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At the cost of killing other lives. Don't forget that part.
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
whose life are they killing? did you even read what i wrote? stemcells are grown in test tubes, they are just a small collection of cells 100,000 times smaller than a flies brain, that wouldnt have turned into a fetus even if it had the opportunity, stem cells arent babies, or human, they are cells. if killing cells is so bad, just freeze where you are and never move again because every time you move you kill hundreds of cells, you damn serial killer. you know you kill 40,000 cells a day just by moving normally (not counting germs and bactria you kill when washing your hands and step on when you walk) ? you should be arrested by the morality police. im guessing you've never jerked off or had a wet dream because doing so would make you a serial murderer by your standards...
i hope you realize how ignorant you sound.
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
you are a grub, that cares more about the life of microscopic cells that are made for the purpose of saving lives, more than the lives it can save. maybe one day you or a family member will suffer from one of the conditions that could be cured by this research, then maybe you will be for it as well. until then, you're a disgusting and ignorant... thing. that is all.
yes thing, because i don't refer to people who care more about their religious beliefs than their fellow human beings as people. the words heartless dick and a few others come to mind though.
JoshNunez
Member
How is caring for the life of a new human being, not a clump of cells, a human being heartless again? I'm really confused.
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/pros-and-cons-of-stem-cell-research.htm
I know I am going to be hated for this but I thought it was funny ^_^
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/pros-and-cons-of-stem-cell-research.htm
I know I am going to be hated for this but I thought it was funny ^_^
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
it's a clump of cells grown in a test tube, not a human being. it's 150 cells, grown in A TEST TUBE. it is NOT in any way shape or form, a human being. stem cells NEVER had a chance at becoming human, just like the sperm you ejaculate when you jerk off NEVER had a chance at being a human. a seed and sperm cell are met in a test tube, and after 3 days it become this:
you have to be the biggest douchebag in the universe to say that that clump off lifeless cells is worth more than every man women and child on the planet suffering from life threatening, debilitating diseases, and a hypocrite to say it's wrong because it's killing a "potential life" (that would never have grown into a baby anyway) because as a male, you jerk off, and have sex, you kill millions of potential babies every time you do so, and for no other reason than pleasure. this is a life saving treatment, being against it is morally unacceptable. i know you think people need to respect others opinions, but your opinion sucks and it's making you look like an uneducated heartless dick. get it through your thick skull, stem cells NEVER had a chance to grow into a baby. 100% of stem cells come from either test tubes, adults (who obviously arent killed for them) embryonic fluid (extraction of stem cells from embryonic fluid doesnt hurt the fetus, in this case an actual women and baby are used but bother live happily ever after) cord blood (obviously doesnt hurt the baby or mother) or from genetically modified skin cells from adults. NONE OF THOSE ARE KILLING A BABY, OR HARMING A POTENTIAL LIFE.
if you don't even know the basics about a subject, don't talk about it, think about it, form an opinion about it, or even think about thinking about it. keep it out of your mouth, mind, and keyboard, and stay far away from it unless you want to make yourself look like an ignorant jerk who is opposed to life saving treatments.
edit: that picture is stupid, science is no longer a "man discovers cure for blah blah" type deal, it's now organized research done by many people at the same time. and what good is a genius if the mother is unable to support it and his messed up childhood turns him into a meth addict? if abortion were illegal, we wouldnt have cures for diseases, we would have more poor people.
JoshNunez
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Maybe you should read the link on my post to see where all this controversy came from....
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics3.asp
http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/basics/basics3.asp
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
i know where the controversy comes from, and im saying it's not a controversy. if you honestly believe 150 cells grown in a test tube are worth more than a living human being, you're a sub-human, and your opinion doesnt matter anyway.
you're wrong, just stop, you can't make what you said acceptable because it's not acceptable. you're opinion is that of a malevolent man that hates his fellow humans.
JoshNunez
Member
"Most embryonic stem cells are derived from embryos that develop from eggs that have been fertilized in vitro—in an in vitro fertilization clinic—and then donated for research purposes with informed consent of the donors. They are not derived from eggs fertilized in a woman's body."
I'm against the other side of the "most" part. In virtro does not matter to me.
I'm against the other side of the "most" part. In virtro does not matter to me.
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
what other side? i already explained where each type of stem cell comes from and none of them are actual babies.
"100% of stem cells come from either test tubes, adults (who obviously arent killed for them) embryonic fluid (extraction of stem cells from embryonic fluid doesnt hurt the fetus, in this case an actual women and baby are used but bother live happily ever after) cord blood (obviously doesnt hurt the baby or mother) or from genetically modified skin cells from adults."
which one are you against?
Bennett_J
Steel Member
How is caring for the life of a new human being, not a clump of cells, a human being heartless again? I'm really confused.
http://www.allaboutpopularissues.org/pros-and-cons-of-stem-cell-research.htm
I know I am going to be hated for this but I thought it was funny ^_^
Are you fucking retarded or something? Most babies that are aborted are suffering extreme defects, come from lower class families with drug abuse issues, or teenagers who fool around too damn much.
How the fuck would a "genius" be born from any of those? The ones with the defects are out of the question, the lower class babies will most likely not graduate high school due to circumstances involving money, and the 16 and pregnant baby will just grow up spoiled and stupid.
/you
JoshNunez
Member
Oh really? Did you know Steve Jobs was adopted instead of aborted. Tell me Steve Jobs was not a genius.
EDIT: I stand where I will. I am against most forms of embryonic stem cell research.
Anthony. I want you to read this carefully. Not all stem cells research comes from test tubes. Some come from aborted fetuses.
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/tayl/tayl_01abrstemcellscloning.html#a8
EDIT: I stand where I will. I am against most forms of embryonic stem cell research.
Anthony. I want you to read this carefully. Not all stem cells research comes from test tubes. Some come from aborted fetuses.
http://www.lifeissues.net/writers/tayl/tayl_01abrstemcellscloning.html#a8