The "This or That" thread!

[Billie Rainbow]

id like to think that scooters arent a thing that anyone would want to waste money on too much regardless how well off you may be, things towards a better lifestyle maybe?

and what are cheap wheels $15-$30? if you're in triple digits in wheels then you had to shell out hundreds on hundreds more than if you would have gotten an expensive wheel that would last you 5-9 months. so your theory just imploded. $240 over 2.5-3 years for wheels or hundreds of cheap wheels over a long time? thats a no brainer mate.

when protos last me the same time as any other and chunk like the rest before i can (mgp prototypes lasted longer still with no chunking) and i dont wanna say it again, they are slow!

 

[LTS]

id like to think that scooters arent a thing that anyone would want to waste money on too much regardless how well off you may be, things towards a better lifestyle maybe?

when protos last me the same time as any other and chunk like the rest before i can (mgp prototypes lasted longer still with no chunking) and i dont wanna say it again, they are slow!

i run some abec 11 bearing on my wheels and they're pretty fast honestly. and you are talking about not wasting money and putting it to a better life style when you have bought hundreds of cheap wheels oppose to you could have gotten a few like $60 wheels that last wary longer. logic. if you dehub wheels and break expensive wheels as fast as you say you do you clearly must trash your wheels.

 

[Billie Rainbow]

that showed how little you know
abec is not speed tolerance, its how well they are made and that doesnt equal more speed unless you are going about 80kph (50 mph) all day.
lets math it up
i powerslide all the time so i dont have to use my brake too much(there so i dont run foot direct to wheel)
wheels last between 1 to 3 months regardless what they are, just the amount of pu is different.
i ride concrete 99% of the time with most being poor surface conditions so i chunk em often.
in AUS protos cost min 100
i never pay more than 70 for a pair of wheels because my time in r+d shows that a us made wheel is, with the correct manufacturing techniques the same as a chinese one, things like pu shape, the bonding between pu and core and if there is a mecanical attachment which can effect speed and durabiliy more than if its hand poured or what marketing they use to sell it. pu is chemically the exact same in china or us incase you wernt sure.
with these conditions what will do better?

 

[LTS]

that showed how little you know
abec is not speed tolerance, its how well they are made and that doesnt equal more speed unless you are going about 80kph (50 mph)

i said my wheels seem fast with abec 11 bearings i never stated they made them faster. good day sir. have fun continuing too waste hundreds on shit wheels when there is a bigger money saver. because if I've rode expensive wheels for this long of a time as hard as i do for hours almost everyday then clearly you are being mean to them.

 

[Billie Rainbow]

enjoy your butthurt

i run some abec 11 bearing on my wheels and they're pretty fast honestly. and you are talking about not wasting money and putting it to a better life style when you have bought hundreds of cheap wheels oppose to you could have gotten a few like $60 wheels that last wary longer. logic. if you dehub wheels and break expensive wheels as fast as you say you do you clearly must trash your wheels.

i dont see seem anywhere in here. faster in in comparison to what? you can deny the truth and your butthurt, you have free will to do so.
bold: they contact the goddamn ground, atleast they rest of my scoot holds for over twice the time

 

[LTS]

enjoy your butthurt

i dont see seem anywhere in here. faster in in comparison to what? you can deny the truth and your butthurt, you have free will to do so.
bold: they contact the goddamn ground, atleast they rest of my scoot holds for over twice the time

you're so full of shit its sad.

 

[Billie Rainbow]

"Is not discontent essential in our life, to any question, to any inquiry, to probing, to finding out what is the real, what is Truth, what is essential in life?"
that is why i fight on regardless of you say, either i learn or you do

or

thats like, your opinion man

 

[LTS]

"Is not discontent essential in our life, to any question, to any inquiry, to probing, to finding out what is the real, what is Truth, what is essential in life?"
that is why i fight on regardless of you say, either i learn or you do

i know what the truth is mate. get off your soapbox

 

[Billie Rainbow]

you are certainly not proving it, as you may figure i am not you nor are you me. i am out to have fun and well, after all this time i find it fun to try new things because i live scooters. to make them more unique than they sit now, very slow in development and little "innovation" which i know and so do others that dont wish to disturb the current paradigm for reasons of a) market stabilty b) profit c) unnecessary to need more advancement when you havent reached the limits of what is possible. i dont just ride them, i let them overtake my will to see clearly elsewhere. can you say the same?

 

[LTS]

i agree that there is little innovation and most parts especially for park…are cheap china made crap, ill give you that. scooters are a big part of my life but they're not my life i won't let a sport (which is literally the funniest ever) over take me and all that stuff.but really what have you done thats so innovating for the sport? (implying you have)

 

[Billie Rainbow]

to you, maybe not much at all as you dont ride the same style of riding or parts. well mgp wouldnt be too far without my help lets just say, poor example yes but the noobs froth it and that is 95% of the market.

also the fact you find my passion a funny thing leads me to assume you are not worth even my time here as you will most likely never get to do or see what i have. unless you read a book about it then its a waste of time even starting on you

 

[LTS]

to you, maybe not much at all as you dont ride the same style of riding or parts. well mgp wouldnt be too far without my help lets just say, poor example yes but the noobs froth it and that is 95% of the market.

mgp isn't that bad of a brand. for me i ride park and have huge feet….id like to see better deck design and a strong long lasting deck around 20-20.8 inches meant for park as in is really balanced and shit butter cups great and whips like butter.that has 14.75-15.25 inches of foot room with 83 pref or 82.5 hta. i would really like to see park decks meant for big riders but thats pretty impossible in this day of age for the sport.

 

[Phase Three]

id be more worried with the cutouts slicing you up, youll cop that well before they bend and fuck they have destroyed some good riders

says the one with a bunch of holes in his bars haha

its not wasting if they're actually better wheels… i sware everyone on here is like a penny pincher…anyways get what you like.

No it's just we're trying to get the best value out of our parts unlike you

 

[LTS]

says the one with a bunch of holes in his bars haha

No it's just we're trying to get the best value out of our parts unlike you

whatever floats your boat

 

[Billie Rainbow]

easy done but i am not in a position to do that nor would i do it exactly like that. much more is possible and the ideas for that particular style could use some cheaper and easier manufacturing techniques

 

[LTS]

i may not now all about decks but i would be saw to assume for a bigger rider a cheap material deck would snap fast. sad part is i was almost forced to get an apex deck because it has my desired specs and suits a bigger rider…even though it should be like $280 not $360

 

[Billie Rainbow]

if you knew how much they cost to make then youd really complain about the price but distributors and manufactors set the prices for max profit.

 

[LTS]

if you knew how much they cost to make then youd really complain about the price but distributors and manufactors set the prices for max profit.

just wish there was a better deck alternative for me lol.

 

[Marketship]

mgp isn't that bad of a brand. for me i ride park and have huge feet….id like to see better deck design and a strong long lasting deck around 20-20.8 inches meant for park as in is really balanced and shit butter cups great and whips like butter.that has 14.75-15.25 inches of foot room with 83 pref or 82.5 hta. i would really like to see park decks meant for big riders but thats pretty impossible in this day of age for the sport.

Park deck.... for bigger riders.... so you want a bigger deck.... but then once you get a bigger deck.... you'll complain about how you won't be able to do buttercups and whippy thingys. We have big ass park riders and they ride big ass decks, they just don't do flippy whippy thingys.

 

[Phase Three]

just wish there was a better deck alternative for me lol.