i'm with this guy, they may be a corporation in it for the money but they know how to satisfy riders, by having a good team and good products, they keep updating designs for us, to make us happy, it may not be what all of us want but its the majority. they make good and cheap stuff. if it wasnt for the noobs riding them and snaking people they would have alot more respect. its not madds fault for making such well priced good riding completes that appeal to noobs, and they might put childish graphics on they're scooters but so does district and i never see anyone hating on them, down in canberra you either ride a madd,district or phoenix. and the most common and well ridden by far is maddd. i nkow afew sponsored people down here who swear by maddgear. and its fair enough. they are cheap, they ride good, and they are relatively strong.