nateridesscooters
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Phoenix 4.5 or a TSI 4.6.
if you have riden these please tell the pros and cons
and what you prefer.
if you have riden these please tell the pros and cons
and what you prefer.
What deck is better?
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brody01134
Steel Member
well tsi is way heavier than phoenix, but phoenix is shorter.
phoenix has a 82.5 headtube angle and personally 83 on a tsi feels way better
both have concave, but i prefer tsi's dropouts more
phoenix has a 82.5 headtube angle and personally 83 on a tsi feels way better
both have concave, but i prefer tsi's dropouts more
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
it depends. tsi feels really weird, when i tried to bunnyhop on one i nosebonked and almost flipped over. and they are more heavy. but if you can get used to it and like heavy decks go with tsi.
phoenix is perfectly balanced and pretty much the same weight as a bolted pro, they feel amazing.
both of them are really strong and will last a long time. its all you.
phoenix is perfectly balanced and pretty much the same weight as a bolted pro, they feel amazing.
both of them are really strong and will last a long time. its all you.
Vaughn.H
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i absolutely hate it when people say tsi's are way heavier. that sir is false, a phoenix is only about 3 oz. lighter than a tsi.
tsi 4.6 deck plates have 5 degrees of concave witch makes it way better for throwing and catching whips, or scooter flips.
yes the flowmaster's headtube angle is not to the liking of some people. but if you dont like it then get the freeflow witch instead of an 83 headtube angle its 81.5
tsi is capable of different deck plates allowing you to change width or deck styles to your preference. there is never a need to buy a new deck if you want to have a wider or skinnier deck plate.
phoenixes drop outs are similar to razors, and in many cases such as alex dorantes's deck or kody geiger's deck they bent in or folded. in fact tsi's are stronger than phoenixes believe it or not. the other day i was at reedville skate park with alex and he showed me cracks along the top welds to the base of the deck and cracks going around the welds on the bottom, and cracks going through the deck.
i know people are going to say pics or gtfo but trust me when his breaks i will take pictures and post them everywhere. oh and his is a second gen.
the way a tsi is set up it doesnt have drop outs. in the area where the front drop outs would be you have a scissor joint going from the headtube to the rails.
what that does is it forces the tension through the headtube , through the front, and out the back.
and because a tsi is two rails with a deckplate it allows it to flex and absorb the stress put onto it.
so its your decision.
a deck thats going to break
or one thats not.
your choice.
tsi 4.6 deck plates have 5 degrees of concave witch makes it way better for throwing and catching whips, or scooter flips.
yes the flowmaster's headtube angle is not to the liking of some people. but if you dont like it then get the freeflow witch instead of an 83 headtube angle its 81.5
tsi is capable of different deck plates allowing you to change width or deck styles to your preference. there is never a need to buy a new deck if you want to have a wider or skinnier deck plate.
phoenixes drop outs are similar to razors, and in many cases such as alex dorantes's deck or kody geiger's deck they bent in or folded. in fact tsi's are stronger than phoenixes believe it or not. the other day i was at reedville skate park with alex and he showed me cracks along the top welds to the base of the deck and cracks going around the welds on the bottom, and cracks going through the deck.
i know people are going to say pics or gtfo but trust me when his breaks i will take pictures and post them everywhere. oh and his is a second gen.
the way a tsi is set up it doesnt have drop outs. in the area where the front drop outs would be you have a scissor joint going from the headtube to the rails.
what that does is it forces the tension through the headtube , through the front, and out the back.
and because a tsi is two rails with a deckplate it allows it to flex and absorb the stress put onto it.
so its your decision.
a deck thats going to break
or one thats not.
your choice.
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
phoenix decks are just as strong as tsi decks.
also phoenix decks feel a shit load lighter than tsi. theres different tsi decks so saying they weigh 3 ounces more is dumb. phoenix decks are 3 pounds flat, thats lighter than any tsi deck no matter what.
phoenix decks have concave, not as much but 2 degrees wont mak any difference.
stop hating on any deck that isnt tsi.
ScooterSLZ
Member
Wtf that was so biased by anthoney phoenix feel amazing, tsi feel really weird...wtf
phoenix is perfectly balanced, tsi is really heavy
unbiased really??
phoenix is perfectly balanced, tsi is really heavy
unbiased really??
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
yea unbiased because i am not associated with phoenix or tsi or any company in any way so anything i say is going to be what i actually think and not just me trying to advertise a deck.
Justin Vogelsberger
Member
wow lol
and id say tsi cause i dont like how light phoenix is , dont like the ht angle too mellow, the drop outs i dont mind i guess i just like tsi every thing about it weight ht angle deck plates axle and drop outs<3
humpurple kushiones
Steel Member
you are biased because you're on tsi. not only that you're hating on other decks just to make people think tsi is the only good, strong deck on the market. its not dude.
Bear Grylls
M3MB3R
grow some balls
ride a tsi
ride a tsi
michaelchavez
Steel Member
.....says the guy whos changing to a district
Billie Rainbow
Silver Member
its a scooter, get serious
Vaughn.H
Member
im not hating on all other decks. he asked witch is better. i showed him the facts and told him witch one was.
and im not being biased, its called being FACTUAL
and justin i was typing fast and hit d on accident lol
Bear Grylls
M3MB3R
Dude i love my tsi tho. So comfortable but i really want a district.
Justin Vogelsberger
Member
ryan sell me your tsi
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