chet ubetcha
Member
You guys seemed to be struggling to answer the question so I thought I'd step in and lend a hand. No need to thank me. You're all totally welcome.
Why do people hate on scootering so much?
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MattThomMakesMeWarmInside
Silver Member
The dude has points, and they're both very relevant and irrelevant. Scooters are indeed much easier to pick up on, but reaching past the basics, any sport being pushed to its limits relates to any other sport being pushed to its limits. That being said, it isn't to say it's easier, but the standards for riding a scooter are easier than say a skateboard. Cruise down the road and do a kickflip as you land and keep pushing, or do a whip on a scooter, the skateboard is harder. Both considered pretty entry level, but the scooter is easier. At the same time, because of this, I don't legitimately know a single consistent clean talented skater in my town (they do exist however, I'm just saying.) But then, you could up the ante for a scooter and say, do a 360 whip bar off that loading dock. It is all depending, but whether or not you agree with the dude, he's giving you an answer that is very true. A lot of people don't like it for the reason that it's easy to pick up on, versus other sports. Don't say it isn't true.
RiccardoM
Steel Member
Today, as I was talking to a douche-bag-scoot-fag my friend came over and he skateboards, when he went I was still talking to the douche and he started going on about how he hates skaters. Personally, I think the hate from skaters comes partly from the fact some scoot-fags hate on them simply because they cannot skateboard. As we have already observed.
CallumR
Steel Member
WE KNEW THIS AlREADY
I honestly believe with all my heart that Scooters are VERY easy to get on and ride around on. No matter what age or level of coordination 6-10 year olds can hop and a scooter and cruise around a park. This is just fact guys.
Two years ago BMX was HUGE in my city. Every little kid was getting one but after a few months they realized their little bodies can't handle hopping a bike more than an inch off the ground and you know what happened? They all got scooters. They didn't have the patience or passion to keep at BMX. We have like 500 scooter kids now.
Are any of them child prodigies? Not a chance, they can still hardly figure out how to manual but they can ride that mothafucka around a park like no ones business (snaking people and not looking where they are going the whole time).
I agree that this may be the biggest issue with our sport now. It used to be we would get shit on because we are different but now it's the growth of the scooter kid that is tarnishing our reputation. I don't even know how to go about fixing this other than telling kids whats up and waiting for them to evolve from scooter kid to scooter rider.
We have had like 13 years of freestyle scooter riding and it's true we have progressed quite quickly but I don't think that has anything to do with how easy it is to simply ride one. The park/big trick game has gotten way out of hand but the street progression is only now starting to take off, slowly but surely.
Two years ago BMX was HUGE in my city. Every little kid was getting one but after a few months they realized their little bodies can't handle hopping a bike more than an inch off the ground and you know what happened? They all got scooters. They didn't have the patience or passion to keep at BMX. We have like 500 scooter kids now.
Are any of them child prodigies? Not a chance, they can still hardly figure out how to manual but they can ride that mothafucka around a park like no ones business (snaking people and not looking where they are going the whole time).
I agree that this may be the biggest issue with our sport now. It used to be we would get shit on because we are different but now it's the growth of the scooter kid that is tarnishing our reputation. I don't even know how to go about fixing this other than telling kids whats up and waiting for them to evolve from scooter kid to scooter rider.
We have had like 13 years of freestyle scooter riding and it's true we have progressed quite quickly but I don't think that has anything to do with how easy it is to simply ride one. The park/big trick game has gotten way out of hand but the street progression is only now starting to take off, slowly but surely.
Do you even ride? You seem to have some pretty strong opinions against scooters.
Also don't you dare think you have come in here with some innovative point of view that has revolutionised the way us scooter riders perceive our sport, all you have done is over state a point we already knew and pissed off a lot of big members. You go on about how scooter riders do not know park etiquette, however as a new member it is obvious you have absolutely no idea about forum etiquette.
chet ubetcha
Member
I've observed forum etiquette. I haven't exactly stormed in flaming the hell out of scooters have I? I offered a constructive, if vitriolic, answer to why "people hate on scooters so much".
No I don't ride a scooter. I ride a skateboard. Really fucking badly I might add.
It's been an interesting exchange and I've learned a lot about scooting which can only be a good thing.
Wicked.
chet ubetcha
Member
Not particularly. It's a largely painful and embarrassing experience.
Ben Moak
Steel Member
You've been somewhat douchey and condescending about your points though. Those points being pretty subjective as well.
SuperCoop
Member
Skaters not respecting scooter enthusiasts does nothing but kick the pioneers of their sport/hobby right in the nuts. Skateboarding has taken decades for the recognition, appreciation and acceptance that it receives in a mainstream market today. The real pioneers of skateboarding had to deal with the same push backs that scooters are facing today, the ironic difference is that a large portion of the negativity comes from the skateboarders themselves.
chet ubetcha
Member
I think the irony of side lining a sport that's grown out of something considered a kids past-time is lost on a lot of skaters.
Rollerbladers got exactly the same shit - but for exactly the same reasons.
Kids took to rollerblading and started clogging up skateparks and even those that were accomplished rollerbladers still got hassle.
I've often wondered what would happen if a bunch of scooters turned up to a skatepark where they are banned and just fucking rode it.
Going places and riding where you;re not allowed / wanted is part of the foundation of skateboarding ethos. I don't know how many would see it like that if scooters adopted the more fuck-you ethos.
Michael Hohmann
Bronze member
ive thought about this a bit but the 2 big problems are that 1. the little kids are the problem but they are also the future solution, when you yourself scooter and you flip out on them it will undoubtedly turn them off from the sport and our sport is going to eventually have another fall and we will need all the dedicated riders we can get when that happen and in order to do that you should teach kids to respect the park etiquette instead of flipping on them for not knowing to do so. 2. Alot of the riders that are only trying to ride street DO know how to flawlessly ride park without snaking a single skater/bmx/ whatever and since your out riding street these skaters and bmx riders only see the little kids snaking the shit out of them, they dont know that a serious scooter rider even exists. im not trying to do a street vs park thing or anything this is simply about if your not there they dont know you and dont know that your their equal in every way exept you stand on a scooter. this might sound cocky and conceded but i know that i can fully stand by this comment regardless of how others feel, i pretty much single handedly changed to outlook on scootering at my local(sarasota) just by being real, going harder everyday than the day before, respecting others and giving skaters and bmx props on their tricks.. ive got to the point im so close with just about everyone there ive even converted a couple people from a couple differant sports to scootering. this problem is not as difficult to solve as it seems if everyone just pitches in we can surely change the outlook on our sport! the main thing is respect if you think somebody is snaking you on purpose try and chill or even pick up his board for him and see if you can get him to change his opinion on you, if you cant fuck um you know? but at least try because the hate only ripples since most of their sport is possers and followers..
SuperCoop
Member
Something else that I have noticed is bashing from our own within. My son is a YouTube Scooter Check junkie. He combs it daily looking for new postings. One thing that I have noticed is the amount of negativity from fellow scooter enthusiasts regarding builds and whether a rider is worthy of their setup. I do not see the justification in slamming and making vulgar comments to another scooter rider simply because they have pro rider equipment with noob skills. Everyone was new at some point.
Rich kid, poor kid should not matter. We/you have a common bond with a unique hobby/sport. Enjoy it to the fullest, not bash over shiny parts. If the community of scootering cannot get along and accept one another, how do you expect the outside world to accept it?
Rich kid, poor kid should not matter. We/you have a common bond with a unique hobby/sport. Enjoy it to the fullest, not bash over shiny parts. If the community of scootering cannot get along and accept one another, how do you expect the outside world to accept it?
Lohens91
Bronze member
Virtually no Illinois park allow scooter. If you read signs at nearly every park it says no scooters. This was kind of a problem when I started riding cuz I would get kicked out of my local like once a month, but i still rode it like 5 or 6 days a week.
chet ubetcha
Member
This Gentleman knows what he's talking about. If more people (skaters and BMXers included) adopted this guys attitude skateparks the world over would be a better place.
J dub
Bronze member
There's always going to be some hate directed towards some group. Just some people don't play nice with others. Heck, there are even skater haters! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodpushers-are-gay/466030313438628