If your talking about me, then Jordan is right, I haven't had a scooter since mid June. And Austin, about 200 of them are in the free rider thread I'll bet. Like I said, I really don't want to learn them. I'll probably end up learning them just to be like "Dude I can whip" to my friends. I just like spins, grabs, tricks without the scooter doing things separate from me (bris, whips, sccot flips), and tech stuff. I find a lot of stuff way un-stylish, like whips and especially bris. If I had enough air to really stall out a whip, then I would do it.