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jimvandeveld

Bronze member
those actually seem like a really good design. just one question. how are you keeping the 2 pieces from spinning on each other or coming apart from each other? a slit or something? and also just a little constructive criticism, get some better welds, and they will be so legit

My name is Jim Vandeveld, and I'm a toolmaker in Erie, PA as well as the co-founder of Cycle Mayhem.

Thanks for taking the time to answer intelligently bro- and as for the rest of the negative criticism- justifiable, but to be honest, a little rude. That is fine though, you all are completely entitled to your own opinions. In response to your question Michael, in the pictures it is unseen but on the back of the bars the top piece is notched and the downtube has an insert that was attached to it, which lock together and prevent the bars from spinning. The downtube has nut welded to the top of it, and we used a large bolt as well to ensure that it could be locked down thoroughly. These welds were a bit rough, but the bottom line is that what you see here is the very first prototype, which squeak has been riding for some time now, and the welds have held up just fine. I understand that they arent a picture perfect bead, but they are strong. I'm not here to convince you to change your mind, but the idea behind Cycle Mayhem was to bring new and innovative ideas to our sport, and I feel like this is an example of what we're trying to do. We're not trying to make it big, we're just a couple guys who like all things two wheeled and thought we had a few cool ideas floating around and decided to make them into a reality. And so far in our opinion they've worked out well. So, although some of your feelings were positive, I'm not here to criticize you in return, and in fact your feedback will be duely noted. Hopefully the next set of pictures will better portray the quality of our work, and i apologize if these welds turned some of your stomachs, but once again I assure you they are much stronger than some of you are saying. Thank you to those of you for your support that provided it! And thanks to hep greg for noticing what a treasure those old ass demo grips really are.
 

Steezeman

Administrator
i HATE demolition grips, but i love longnecks. demo's fell apart on me mighty quick.
I won them from a race so I'm not too worried about it. I wouldn't buy anything but Longnecks, but these seem to be doing the trick.

what the heck they make a legit burger ur from cali u should know and i ate proto
I believe Jake was saying that it looks as if a homo would ride the scooter, and since I'm riding it, he was saying that I am a homo. As for the bold, looks like I'm out a sponsor now. Anyone, anyone?
 

DevonIs1337

Member
My name is Jim Vandeveld, and I'm a toolmaker in Erie, PA as well as the co-founder of Cycle Mayhem.

Thanks for taking the time to answer intelligently bro- and as for the rest of the negative criticism- justifiable, but to be honest, a little rude. That is fine though, you all are completely entitled to your own opinions. In response to your question Michael, in the pictures it is unseen but on the back of the bars the top piece is notched and the downtube has an insert that was attached to it, which lock together and prevent the bars from spinning. The downtube has nut welded to the top of it, and we used a large bolt as well to ensure that it could be locked down thoroughly. These welds were a bit rough, but the bottom line is that what you see here is the very first prototype, which squeak has been riding for some time now, and the welds have held up just fine. I understand that they arent a picture perfect bead, but they are strong. I'm not here to convince you to change your mind, but the idea behind Cycle Mayhem was to bring new and innovative ideas to our sport, and I feel like this is an example of what we're trying to do. We're not trying to make it big, we're just a couple guys who like all things two wheeled and thought we had a few cool ideas floating around and decided to make them into a reality. And so far in our opinion they've worked out well. So, although some of your feelings were positive, I'm not here to criticize you in return, and in fact your feedback will be duely noted. Hopefully the next set of pictures will better portray the quality of our work, and i apologize if these welds turned some of your stomachs, but once again I assure you they are much stronger than some of you are saying. Thank you to those of you for your support that provided it! And thanks to hep greg for noticing what a treasure those old ass demo grips really are.

I appreciate responses like this so much. It's actually an incredibly good idea, and I'm very interested in seeing the 2 other designs. :]
 

tylerbillman

Steel Member
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07 Pro Homemade Angle Reinforced
Fresh!SC bars 22h x 20w with ODIs
FrID clamp w/ SCS shim
Cane Creek S-3
FrID fork w/ Fresh!SC ICS
Black n Grey stripe tape
SOA bolts
Blade brake
110 and 100 Fernandos
ES and Reds bearings

Finally your scooter doesnt look like crap!
 

Michael Rankin

Super Moderator
My name is Jim Vandeveld, and I'm a toolmaker in Erie, PA as well as the co-founder of Cycle Mayhem.

Thanks for taking the time to answer intelligently bro- and as for the rest of the negative criticism- justifiable, but to be honest, a little rude. That is fine though, you all are completely entitled to your own opinions. In response to your question Michael, in the pictures it is unseen but on the back of the bars the top piece is notched and the downtube has an insert that was attached to it, which lock together and prevent the bars from spinning. The downtube has nut welded to the top of it, and we used a large bolt as well to ensure that it could be locked down thoroughly. These welds were a bit rough, but the bottom line is that what you see here is the very first prototype, which squeak has been riding for some time now, and the welds have held up just fine. I understand that they arent a picture perfect bead, but they are strong. I'm not here to convince you to change your mind, but the idea behind Cycle Mayhem was to bring new and innovative ideas to our sport, and I feel like this is an example of what we're trying to do. We're not trying to make it big, we're just a couple guys who like all things two wheeled and thought we had a few cool ideas floating around and decided to make them into a reality. And so far in our opinion they've worked out well. So, although some of your feelings were positive, I'm not here to criticize you in return, and in fact your feedback will be duely noted. Hopefully the next set of pictures will better portray the quality of our work, and i apologize if these welds turned some of your stomachs, but once again I assure you they are much stronger than some of you are saying. Thank you to those of you for your support that provided it! And thanks to hep greg for noticing what a treasure those old ass demo grips really are.

I love your idea on the whole concept. Personally I love 2-3 piece bars. Especially the way you have the two pieces connect together. Its much more customizable and its easier and cheaper to replace broken parts. And when i was commenting on the welds, it was mainly just to warn you that people on here will flame you for not having clean welds. I know they are strong enough to withstand anything you throw at them, so that comment wasn't necessarily criticism as it was more of a tip or a suggestion. I am really looking forward to seeing what other parts you make. Good luck with everything.
 

Dean Bost

Bronze member
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Bars-Inward one piece 21x18 white
Fork-Proto Striker 110mm threadless raw
Proto Brass Knuckle SCS silver
Wheels-2 Proto 110mm Grippers
Deck- Phoenix one piece deck 4.0
Headset-FSA Pig sealed
 

DevonIs1337

Member
the color scheme on that is so solid and well done... everything matches, and that makes it amazing.

if only your SCS was red, that would be perfect.
 

Riley Hughes

Steel Member
My name is Jim Vandeveld, and I'm a toolmaker in Erie, PA as well as the co-founder of Cycle Mayhem.

Thanks for taking the time to answer intelligently bro- and as for the rest of the negative criticism- justifiable, but to be honest, a little rude. That is fine though, you all are completely entitled to your own opinions. In response to your question Michael, in the pictures it is unseen but on the back of the bars the top piece is notched and the downtube has an insert that was attached to it, which lock together and prevent the bars from spinning. The downtube has nut welded to the top of it, and we used a large bolt as well to ensure that it could be locked down thoroughly. These welds were a bit rough, but the bottom line is that what you see here is the very first prototype, which squeak has been riding for some time now, and the welds have held up just fine. I understand that they arent a picture perfect bead, but they are strong. I'm not here to convince you to change your mind, but the idea behind Cycle Mayhem was to bring new and innovative ideas to our sport, and I feel like this is an example of what we're trying to do. We're not trying to make it big, we're just a couple guys who like all things two wheeled and thought we had a few cool ideas floating around and decided to make them into a reality. And so far in our opinion they've worked out well. So, although some of your feelings were positive, I'm not here to criticize you in return, and in fact your feedback will be duely noted. Hopefully the next set of pictures will better portray the quality of our work, and i apologize if these welds turned some of your stomachs, but once again I assure you they are much stronger than some of you are saying. Thank you to those of you for your support that provided it! And thanks to hep greg for noticing what a treasure those old ass demo grips really are.

thank you for posting like this. i love these. and yeah dude maybe get them professionally welded or something? idk. but im looking forward to future designs
 

jimvandeveld

Bronze member
I love your idea on the whole concept. Personally I love 2-3 piece bars. Especially the way you have the two pieces connect together. Its much more customizable and its easier and cheaper to replace broken parts. And when i was commenting on the welds, it was mainly just to warn you that people on here will flame you for not having clean welds. I know they are strong enough to withstand anything you throw at them, so that comment wasn't necessarily criticism as it was more of a tip or a suggestion. I am really looking forward to seeing what other parts you make. Good luck with everything.

Thanks bud-
And to be honest, because I knew the integrity of the welds, I didn't think much of the appearance. But I agree that when making the decision to purchase, most often the products design won't sell itself. It truely is in the cosmetic and aethestic form that the parts will appeal to the masses. Anyways, I agree with you on the 2-3 piece design. The progression I experienced as I moved through my scootering phases was hindered greatly by the fact that I had to buy several sets of bars before I truely found the style and width that worked for me, and that shines through in our bars. We want to make them more customizable as well as easier to replace as parts wear out. And also i really liked the idea of being able to two tone powder coat my bars without the mess involved with heat tape and lightly baking them and re-applying powder. So by have it in separate pieces it really became easier to manipulate the the overall look of the ride. Anyway- your positive words are greatly appreciated and hopefully over the coming weeks our product will redeem it self!
 

jimvandeveld

Bronze member
thank you for posting like this. i love these. and yeah dude maybe get them professionally welded or something? idk. but im looking forward to future designs

Thank you bro! I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. And to comment on the welds once again-these welds were done on a mig welder as opposed to a tig, which we started using shortly after, but they were the first prototype. Consequently, a mig welder if a bit more sloppy in the finish, and so we had to sand and file around the welds which actually removed some of the beading affect. But I assure you the metal to metal composition combination is very smooth and perhaps the pictures don't give it justice. In person they don't look as poor. Regardless, almost all internet sales will be based on pictures, and so we realize the importance of the eye-pleasing factor of the welds themselves, and are currently working diligently to correct it. Thanks alot for your comment bro-and we look forward to hearing more feedback from you in the future!
 
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