i have like 6 pairs, so comfortable, all the benefits of shorts and all the benefits of skinnies, i wear them like below my knees or at, i only have one pair above my knees and theyre red
demons arent as bad as they seem, ive had them a couple months and they havent gotten flat spots or dehubbed at all, and i wiegh like 120 and im kinda sketchy, i recommend them if youre on a low budget