[poll] ATHEISM

[Tom6]

hahhaha we had this descussion in RE today, i came up with my own theory:

Around 2000 years ago a group of good people made up a fictorial character called jesus and God and created a book that portayed messages to make people better people.

These stories were passed on form person to person, the stories getting more and more unbelievable.

They soon found that these stories had much money to make and spread the word taking donations everywhere.

So to sum up. Christianity was made up to make people better but then sort of started turning into a money fest.



I dont fully belive this but yeah...

lol sean it appears you are the one being dumb

 

[seankane]

lol sean it appears you are the one being dumb

or i just skimmed his post, like i do most of the posts in this thread since for the most part they're all illogical

 

[master]

yeah im a retard but mostly it was a joke with my mates to annoy my teacher who is a total preacher.

 

[bobby_ogle2]

I think danny wardick is a dumbass and doesnt know shit about anything. the end

 

[nick12667]

not necessary

 

[danielwarwick]

I think danny wardick is a dumbass and doesnt know shit about anything. the end

Who are you? You have one post, if you wanna be a dick at least back it up. If you got a problem with me then message me and I'll gladly talk to you.

 

[Kenny O.]

i banned him

 

[nick12667]

hahaha banned after first post hahahahahahaha.

 

[Rob.]

AHA! nice one kenny lolol

 

[dre]

Does anyone know if sean kane has posted his views on religion/etc. here? I'd be really interested to see what they are..

 

[CodyChirichiello]

^Look back on any page. He is one of the more active posters in this topic, read some of his posts and you will figure out his viewpoints on this subject

 

[danielwarwick]

i banned him

<3.

 

[dre]

^^I already did that, but I wanna know what he thinks about the universe/everything in general and how it came to be and stuff, because from reading his stuff it seems like he HAS researched his shit as opposed to many others posting in this thread. I dunno, just I think we should have more of that in this thread and less fighting about stupid bullshit..

As for me though, I don't think any of the "holy books" we have nowadays should be taken as anything more than stories. But I do believe in some kind of higher power. But I believe that how the universe came to be could be the actions of some higher power, but I just 100% disagree with the creationist reasoning; it seems so un-complex and really all the crazy amazing shit that we have found out and yet have to find out about our universe in general to me proves that there is the possibility of some kind of god. Just think about it, all the biological processes that go on on our planet to bring about life that seem so complex to us as humans for me is proof that there is something out there that has such immense power that we cannot even comprehend, to give birth to an entire self-sustaining universe to contain life, etc. Seriously, just sit back sometime outside and just forget about everything else going on in your life and look at the big picture; just how amazing it is that by chance our planet earth was situated in the perfect place to allow biological life to grow and sustain itself on the planet.. It's truly amazing if you just think about it. But as for me I would say I'm anti-religious in the sense that I don't believe that we as mortals can even come close to comprehending what might be this higher power that gave birth to the universe as we know it, and then strut around preaching that we've figured it all out, etc, etc. which is what most religions are nowadays, when things are interpreted literally (ie. the bible).

And wow, that was pretty much one big run-on sentence.. hmm well that's my views condensed slightly I guess.. Not too philosophical I guess, but I choose not to give too much thought to it - I prefer to just live my life. Even though, it's always good to just sit back and relax and just think about the bigger picture, really takes your mind off things..

 

[seankane]

^^I already did that, but I wanna know what he thinks about the universe/everything in general and how it came to be and stuff, because from reading his stuff it seems like he HAS researched his shit as opposed to many others posting in this thread.

uh, alright, i've got some weird complicated views on pretty much everything, so i'll try and condense them.


i believe in the big bang. i believe in evolution. i believe in god. i believe that jesus existed and was probably the most influential person to have ever existed, still not sure about him being the son of god, though.

this is really just from my personal life, not from anything researched or all the years i've spent in catholic school, but i find it hard to believe that there ISN'T a god. i've seen so many amazing things, things that i consider miracles, that the idea that it just happened randomly is pretty fucking absurd.

in addition to that (this is something you all might strongly disagree with but i don't give a shit), i was on acid about 6 months ago sitting on my front porch at like 2 am, just watching traffic go by. i closed my eyes, and this is hard to explain to anyone that hasn't done some kind of psychedelic, but i kind of went into my own body. i went back through my life from a 3rd person point of view, and it made me look at how far i've come and everything i've been through, and at that moment i was completely certain what god was and what was going on in my life. i can't put into words what happened to me, but it was amazing.

and most importantly:

"The only proof he needed for the existence of God was music."
- Kurt Vonnegut


i know that was long, rambling, and not at all scientific, but thats pretty much my personal feelings.