SCS vs HIC

Billie Rainbow

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
i ride ethic bars+addict fork. anyone with them bars know the ics10 doesnt work with them at all. ics in general works best with alloy bars, never one problem with them. for my ethic bars i had to install a starnut into a forktube, put forktube inside the bars and then dent the bars so the forktube wouldn't slip through. i overtighten all my headsets and then seat the bearings by hitting the scooter on the ground and forcing the bars back and forth so it does what 10/20 mins of riding will do.
 
JCott

JCott

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Billie Rainbow said:
i ride ethic bars+addict fork. anyone with them bars know the ics10 doesnt work with them at all. ics in general works best with alloy bars, never one problem with them. for my ethic bars i had to install a starnut into a forktube, put forktube inside the bars and then dent the bars so the forktube wouldn't slip through. i overtighten all my headsets and then seat the bearings by hitting the scooter on the ground and forcing the bars back and forth so it does what 10/20 mins of riding will do.
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before this you were questionable. but now, everything you say is invalid
 
JCott

JCott

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Billie Rainbow said:
i ride ethic bars+addict fork. anyone with them bars know the ics10 doesnt work with them at all. ics in general works best with alloy bars, never one problem with them. for my ethic bars i had to install a starnut into a forktube, put forktube inside the bars and then dent the bars so the forktube wouldn't slip through. i overtighten all my headsets and then seat the bearings by hitting the scooter on the ground and forcing the bars back and forth so it does what 10/20 mins of riding will do.
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billie this is honestly really dumb. first of all you say ics is easier that scs and whatever but look how much of a hastle it is just for it to work for you. also why the hell would you put a forktube inside the bars instead of just using the appropriate sized star nut. and then you have to DENT your bars so the forktube doesnt move since you didn't use a star nut. that only prevents it from sliding down anyway, it can still spin in the bars and loosen. this is just soooo stupid
 
Billie Rainbow

Billie Rainbow

Silver Member
i said nothing about easier, i said lighter and trouble free meaning once its in the right place it stays there. i also said if you have the bars you would know the ics10 starnut doesnt stay put so thats why i did that and starnuts dont stick into crmo, obviously. do you think i would just let it hang in there loosely as to rattle, no i did make sure it was the correct tolerance as to need force to be installed. i just thought i shouldnt have to explain every last detail.
 
JCott

JCott

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Billie Rainbow said:
i said nothing about easier, i said lighter and trouble free meaning once its in the right place it stays there. i also said if you have the bars you would know the ics10 starnut doesnt stay put so thats why i did that and starnuts dont stick into crmo, obviously. do you think i would just let it hang in there loosely as to rattle, no i did make sure it was the correct tolerance as to need force to be installed. i just thought i shouldnt have to explain every last detail.
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that's pretty weird, ill pass the word on to the starnut in my strikers (that's been there for years)....i dont know about you but my scs, and almost anybody else that ever had one takes weeks comes loose. ruining your parts for the sake of riding the worst compression on the market is ridiculous. why do you act like having a light scooter is the #1 priority in scootering, like your scooter is never too light even though your a grown man.
 
Beau Williams

Beau Williams

Bronze member
JCott said:
that's pretty weird, ill pass the word on to the starnut in my strikers (that's been there for years)....i dont know about you but my scs, and almost anybody else that ever had one takes weeks comes loose. ruining your parts for the sake of riding the worst compression on the market is ridiculous. why do you act like having a light scooter is the #1 priority in scootering, like your scooter is never too light even though your a grown man.
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Some people like to really tinker with their parts and get the best setup the fits them, not only for a better ride but its also fun to work on your parts the get them to run whichever setup you like. Besides Billie is a master when it comes to making shit work for him.

Its not the lightness its whatever feels better and works for him
 
Hamish C

Hamish C

Steel Member
if you complain about weight on a scooter your a bitch
scs is by far the easiest and most problem free compression, especially the tilt cause it has the 6 mm bolts so they dont strip no where near as easy as 5 mm. i rarely have to tighten it, if it comes loose all the time use locktite or something but ive never had that problem.
and billie, all compressions stay in place once they're installed properly. ics is the hardest to install also its the most likely to fail. scs is the most likely stay put and is safer than running a slit.
 
JCott

JCott

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Hamish C said:
if you complain about weight on a scooter your a bitch
scs is by far the easiest and most problem free compression, especially the tilt cause it has the 6 mm bolts so they dont strip no where near as easy as 5 mm. i rarely have to tighten it, if it comes loose all the time use locktite or something but ive never had that problem.
and billie, all compressions stay in place once they're installed properly. ics is the hardest to install also its the most likely to fail. scs is the most likely stay put and is safer than running a slit.
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BrandonBryant said:
I personally like the SCS. I don't care about weight. It feels better.
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i think scs is lighter than hic. think about it, you can have standard bars (alluminum or steel)and a baby scs. with hic you have to have oversized steel bars, plus your clamp, then your fork tube will most likely be longer as you have no need to cut it as you would with scs/baby scs, also you have to have taller bars than you would with scs because hic doesnt raise your bars 1.5/2 inches, plus you have a shim.
 
R-Dubya

R-Dubya

Steel Member
Hamish C said:
if you complain about weight on a scooter your a bitch
scs is by far the easiest and most problem free compression, especially the tilt cause it has the 6 mm bolts so they dont strip no where near as easy as 5 mm. i rarely have to tighten it, if it comes loose all the time use locktite or something but ive never had that problem.
and billie, all compressions stay in place once they're installed properly. ics is the hardest to install also its the most likely to fail. scs is the most likely stay put and is safer than running a slit.
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Okay. I have to disagree with what is bolded. I had a Baby SCS and it was the biggest pain in the ass possible, I did everything right and it still never stayed tight. I had to use soda can shims because it would only tighten on the bars and not the forks for some reason. I also hated having to loosen all four bolts and then stretch the scs with a penny just so I could take my headset out. Then having to re-align my SCS with my fork and my fork with my bars is way more complicated than it has to be. HIC has always been much easier in my experience and I've never had problems with it staying tight. It's also cheaper. And as far as running slits, most average riders will never have to worry about snapping bars because of a slit. If you're out hitting 10+ sets on the daily then yeah you might want to run SCS just to be safe, but for the majority it just isn't necessary.
 
Robert Reichley

Robert Reichley

Bronze member
JCott said:
billie this is honestly really dumb. first of all you say ics is easier that scs and whatever but look how much of a hastle it is just for it to work for you. also why the hell would you put a forktube inside the bars instead of just using the appropriate sized star nut. and then you have to DENT your bars so the forktube doesnt move since you didn't use a star nut. that only prevents it from sliding down anyway, it can still spin in the bars and loosen. this is just soooo stupid
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Legit i didnt even understand what he was talking about but i can tell it didnt make sense
 
K

KyrinBingaman

Silver Member
HIC is super easy. But SCS can be nice if they actually work. It seems like the Proto Baby SCS and Phoenix SCS are the ones that people have problems with. Also I think headsets spin faster with SCS.
 
Keatonspence

Keatonspence

Bronze member
Scs. Mine NEVER come loose.

Your scs should never come loose if you cute your fork perfect. That mean you have like a 1mm space between your fork and the spacer compressing it down.

Mine used to come loose because my forks were cut too short, now it never does.
I've been riding with mine like this for three weeks straight, never to touched it after installed.

Scs for the win.
Lighter & stronger
 
Michael Osterlund

Michael Osterlund

Steel Member
Hic,
Only downside is today for the first time my tilt topcap came too loose and the shim along with tilt topcap went into my bars and my slit is tiny so needle nose plyers wouldnt work, took like an hour to get it out.
 
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