This sport as a whole.

[Aaron]

Ill admit im a weight freak.

I hate this term.
Just because you prefer a light scooter, doesn't make you a 'weight freak'. It means you prefer a light scooter.
Less weight generally makes tricks easier / feel better. Why should it be frowned upon to want this?

 

[Grant Schofield]

I hate this term.
Just because you prefer a light scooter, doesn't make you a 'weight freak'. It means you prefer a light scooter.
Less weight generally makes tricks easier / feel better. Why should it be frowned upon to want this?

i personaly think light scooters are harder to do tricks with.

 

[alexallupinthis]

middle weight scooters are the best

 

[Billie Rainbow]

i personaly think light scooters are harder to do tricks with.

light/small is terrible but big and light like my ride is. its as light as a ultra pro but has bars around 26 h 24-25 w and long deck, its far easier to ride than my other standard size scooter not just flowing but tricks and all, took about a week to get used to but was most worthwhile. there is good reason tbone rides bars bigger than usual

 

[matr!]

I prefer em thick and juicy. Heavy scooters are better IMO, they're faster and more solid feeling than lighter ones. It also helps with gaps, I feel like I stop moving forward when hitting gaps on light scooters, like I've lost momentum all together. Maybe it's just cause I'm used to it.

 

[.Gerrit]

No mongo. It looks bad, etc. End of story.

 

[Jordan Jasa]

Just no.

No, parrish is actually right. It really depends on who you are, but for me, its an art form. For people who do competitions its obviously a sport, but personally I don't think you can really judge who/whats better than another.

 

[Nick Griffin <3]

No mongo. It looks bad, etc. End of story.

no it doesnt. mongo looks alot better and more natural.

 

[.Gerrit]

So you're gonna take the easy way out and not rise to the challenge. For me, it was natural, too, like bs grinds are natural for most people and easier. That's why fs grinds are more respected, because they're more difficult and unnatural. And pushing mongo is such an easy thing to fix; I did it in less than a week after a year of riding. If you don't fix it, it just shows that you aren't willing to spend the teeniest bit of effort in order to make your riding that much better.

 

[Tyler Jones]

More crews like friendly, basic bunch, tom mattingly crew. Stuff like that. Anybody ever noticed all of the super good pros LOVE to ride with each other ALL THE TIME? They get it.

 

[Ben Moak]

more good mods, less joe riley/three week bans for telling him to shut the fuck up

 

[Jacobo]

We need more physical stores that arnt in so cal
And people to just ride for fun

Legit dirt scoots would be sweet to

 

[Rob.]

So you're gonna take the easy way out and not rise to the challenge. For me, it was natural, too, like bs grinds are natural for most people and easier. That's why fs grinds are more respected, because they're more difficult and unnatural. And pushing mongo is such an easy thing to fix; I did it in less than a week after a year of riding. If you don't fix it, it just shows that you aren't willing to spend the teeniest bit of effort in order to make your riding that much better.

It's not a necessary "challenge" to go to. Why go through days/weeks of uncomfortable pushing just to aspire to someone ELSES standards? Thats why I refuse to change how I ride. I have a sloppy style. I push mongo. I can push regular and have done it on occasion (foot pain/hit ankle doing a trick etc) I just don't think it's a fraction of a percent as bad looking on scooters as it is on skateboards. I don't even mind it on boards either. Spending the time to change your pushing is time wasted, when you could be using it to learn more tricks.

I personally just think people are trendy and want to follow skater/other sports trends and earn their respect. Fuck that ideology as well. I don't care about how other sports look at us. I think scootering is its own sport and should strive to be more independent. We should keep trying to make our own tricks and do them more often (like scooter fakies and shit) It's stupid shit like "no mongo, no pegs, no park, no (x)" that will limit our sport and run it into the ground to a premature death and halt progression. We should do our absolute best to make scootering a fun experience, and the more restrictions people attempt to put on it by bitching at everyone over what to ride or where to ride or how to ride, the less fun it will be for everyone.

I learned the error of my ways a long time ago. I hated street, and certain products and I voiced it bluntly feeling righteous about it. But then I realized what I was doing was stupid. Hating companies and riding styles is an erroneous way to think, and limits the sport.

Back when I started riding, no one scootered for other people's approval. We did it because it was fun. When did that change?

Blah, I ranted. Someone is going to come in here and call me an asshole and tell me how I'm wrong, but I don't care. These are my honest opinions.

 

[.Gerrit]

Rob, you're right on most things. Personally, I feel that nobody should push mongo, but you've made it perfectly clear that you wont follow anybody else's standards when it comes to your riding. That's okay, in the back of my mind I'll say to myself, "Oh I wish he didn't push mongo," but I know what you feel, and that you'll never change so I'll just accept it, move along and admire your channel flairs.

And aside from mongo, I really don't care what you do, as long as you don't "ride" park like I previously said in my back on page 2. Indian givers are bad, but I can deal with them.

I forgot heeldrag, because apparently some people still think it's a matter of style. It's not. It's lack of skill and balance. It's bad and you should feel bad.

 

[CallumR]

Nick don't try to get mongo accepted as the better pushing style when it is not even recognised as equal with regular. I know all rob said and he has a point about mongo but scootering isn't going to be accepted we think its better to push mongo, tbh i think you are just saying that because you are too lazy too change, regular is much more controlled and takes less effort, and i push mongo naturally

 

[alexallupinthis]

mongo doesnt matter, its often just a sign of bad style, but i have seen a couple of people who push mongo and it looks just as good.

 

[Travis House]

There's a difference between respecting the need for niche groups, and wanting to get rid of them.
A rather large difference in fact.
Street elitists exist for a very good reason. It's because they care about the sport and what it's turning into. It's an embarrassment to the sport to see some of the adults / pros that are coming through these days. They act incredibly immaturely and generally go about their business in a childish manner. It's these people that are shaping the sport. Kids look up to them and copy their behaviour, because they're rolemodels, like it or not.
Street elitists are the people against THAT. Not the way you dress. Not the tricks you do. Not the terrain you ride. Cause quite frankly, we couldn't care less. If you want to look like a clown, go for it, just don't associate with us.

No better way to put it

 

[matr!]

It's not a necessary "challenge" to go to. Why go through days/weeks of uncomfortable pushing just to aspire to someone ELSES standards? Thats why I refuse to change how I ride. I have a sloppy style. I push mongo. I can push regular and have done it on occasion (foot pain/hit ankle doing a trick etc) I just don't think it's a fraction of a percent as bad looking on scooters as it is on skateboards. I don't even mind it on boards either. Spending the time to change your pushing is time wasted, when you could be using it to learn more tricks.

I personally just think people are trendy and want to follow skater/other sports trends and earn their respect. Fuck that ideology as well. I don't care about how other sports look at us. I think scootering is its own sport and should strive to be more independent. We should keep trying to make our own tricks and do them more often (like scooter fakies and shit) It's stupid shit like "no mongo, no pegs, no park, no (x)" that will limit our sport and run it into the ground to a premature death and halt progression. We should do our absolute best to make scootering a fun experience, and the more restrictions people attempt to put on it by bitching at everyone over what to ride or where to ride or how to ride, the less fun it will be for everyone.

I learned the error of my ways a long time ago. I hated street, and certain products and I voiced it bluntly feeling righteous about it. But then I realized what I was doing was stupid. Hating companies and riding styles is an erroneous way to think, and limits the sport.

Back when I started riding, no one scootered for other people's approval. We did it because it was fun. When did that change?

Blah, I ranted. Someone is going to come in here and call me an asshole and tell me how I'm wrong, but I don't care. These are my honest opinions.

Not sure if it is the same, but it kind of applies. I always used 3 fingers to fingerboard, and when I watched the first few youtube videos everybody used 2. At first it was hard and weird, but 3 days later I couldn't go back to three fingers, cause 2 was so much more flexible and cleaner.

Back on topic, I wish that people weren't like 'what do you ride, street or park?'. I'm not sure if I the only person that gets this question, and I'm not sure if I'm the only guy that says both? I don't see the point in focusing on a certain terrain, both are fun and I enjoy both of them, so why not ride both of them? There are certain things that you can do in a park that you can't do on the street, and the same deal the other way.

 

[devinthedew2]

i fuckin shred and ride mongo and know i can boost a shred bowls faster then anybody who rides regular you so you can fuck off if you hate mongo

 

[CallumR]

i fuckin shred and ride mongo and know i can boost a shred bowls faster then anybody who rides regular you so you can fuck off if you hate mongo

come on devin, theres no need to ruin this thread
its totally cool that you shred bowls fast but if it matters that you go faster than regular people then there is a problem, you really shouldn't be pushing