Tom Borsari said:no its actually amazing
it takes like... 5 minutes to get used to and makes your nose mannys 10x better
haha i dont care about nose manuels its my personal opinion im not a park rat i ride street
Tom Borsari said:no its actually amazing
it takes like... 5 minutes to get used to and makes your nose mannys 10x better
Hell noooo. Where exactly could you read that?Steven T said:Erm reading the fork descriptions on the site, it kinda says zero offset makes the fork stronger? Soo yea, i dunno.
Just saying that without a particular reason IS an epic fail. Saying one line is "very" informative.AdamArce said:Jakob Burns said:zero offset is a epic fail
I don't beleive they make zero-offset forks weaker. They leave them weaker without reinforcing them.JoeyR said:therefore, making them weaker?
Basically no, because it's still only 10mm of diffirence. But there's also no point of getting them either, since the gussets will save your forks if your scooter would ever have to fall bad on the fork.JoeyR said:oh. offset forks are stronger since they have the gussets, then. does zero offset make any tricks harder? sorry for the questions, but im thinking of getting a pair of these bad boys for myself.
Originally offsets came from bikes. As bikes don't have the steerertube under 85 degrees like on scooters, they have more slanted. Bicycles have like around 45 to 80 degrees and as we have witness, longer chopper bikes have sometimes even below 30 degrees. Without the offset the steering would be unstable. As the dropouts were in front of the fork, the main body of the fork (legs) was behind the dropouts, making the steering a bit more stable and not easier to fall. And THEN... somehow the japanese designers transferred the offset from bikes to scooters. Scooters however have a steeper headtube angle, around 80-85 as we most commonly know. 10 millimeters between the standard offset and zero-offset changes very little, but it still changes. I am still wondering if the 180 briflip fall on my XT review video was caused by the zero-offset or the narrow 13" wide bars, or the two together, because both of those factors technically make the steering more unstable. Making the offset larger on a scooter would defenetaly make the steering more stable. Imagine yourself a fork with a 200mm (yes, two-hundred) offset instead of a standard 10mm offset: every person who has never used a scooter, would NOT wobble his super-narrow 13" wide bars on his first run.Jordan said:what is the purpose of having an offset anyway?
huh? that's weird, zero offset, like madis said, should technically make steering less stable, therefore more speed wobbles..GoGzS said:I love it, not only nose manuals...feels safer, when I air the vert with big speed, I get less speed wobbles with the XT zero offset fork than I have with the SR fork...
Same headset/bars/wheels used...
Madis said:...CUT...Jordan said:what is the purpose of having an offset anyway?
Imagine yourself a fork with a 200mm (yes, two-hundred) offset instead of a standard 10mm offset: every person who has never used a scooter, would NOT wobble his super-narrow 13" wide bars on his first run.
Dre said:huh? that's weird, zero offset, like madis said, should technically make steering less stable, therefore more speed wobbles..GoGzS said:I love it, not only nose manuals...feels safer, when I air the vert with big speed, I get less speed wobbles with the XT zero offset fork than I have with the SR fork...
Same headset/bars/wheels used...
Dude the swiss people ride Micro forks backwards. Micro forks even have arrows but yet they still ride it backwards.GoGzS said:*snip
People wondered why some French riders have theyr fork "the wrong way"...I know for myself, with the steeper angle on a micro (comparing to a JDbug/PRO model), it feels more stabile wit the fork that way...tho I never got used to it and rode "the normal way"...now that I have a zero offset fork and pretty steep bars (Micro XT), I tryed riding my Bullet with the SR fork again and it's weird, I got so much used to the zero offset fork, turning the SR fork "the wrong way" feels more natural...
Madis said:Dude the swiss people ride Micro forks backwards. Micro forks even have arrows but yet they still ride it backwards.
You didn't read my post about the gussets on first page, did you.Steven T said:After having rode my zero offset forks..Yea, In my opinion..
Zero Offset>Offset.